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Attributes | |
ACN | 361956 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gdm airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zbw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 361956 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 17500 flight time type : 4400 |
ASRS Report | 361514 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During descent to bronc intersection to cross at 11000 ft and 280 KTS, the captain was getting WX on the other radio and I entered the landing runway 33L into the FMS. This caused the restr at bronc (280 KTS/11000 ft) to delete itself. I had the aircraft selected to managed flight and did not observe that it changed to vertical speed and the restr deleted. Center realized that we probably would not make the restr and gave us a vector. No other traffic or conflicts. This would not occur if once a restr was pilot entered into the FMS it would not automatically delete itself when a destination runway is entered. A pilot entered restr should only be deleted by pilots, not the FMS. Especially since the airport is 39 NM beyond the restr at bronc intersection which is normally (250 KTS/11000 ft).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 ON GARDNER 2 STAR BOS. CLRED CROSS BRONC INTXN 11000 FT 250 KTS PROGRAMMED. CAPT ADVISED USING RWY 33L. ENTERED LNDG RWY IN FMS AND DID NOT NOTICE THE BRONC RESTR DELETED AND THE ACFT REVERTED TO VERT SPD MODE. CTLR QUESTIONED ALT AND VECTORED FOR FURTHER DSCNT.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT TO BRONC INTXN TO CROSS AT 11000 FT AND 280 KTS, THE CAPT WAS GETTING WX ON THE OTHER RADIO AND I ENTERED THE LNDG RWY 33L INTO THE FMS. THIS CAUSED THE RESTR AT BRONC (280 KTS/11000 FT) TO DELETE ITSELF. I HAD THE ACFT SELECTED TO MANAGED FLT AND DID NOT OBSERVE THAT IT CHANGED TO VERT SPD AND THE RESTR DELETED. CTR REALIZED THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT MAKE THE RESTR AND GAVE US A VECTOR. NO OTHER TFC OR CONFLICTS. THIS WOULD NOT OCCUR IF ONCE A RESTR WAS PLT ENTERED INTO THE FMS IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY DELETE ITSELF WHEN A DEST RWY IS ENTERED. A PLT ENTERED RESTR SHOULD ONLY BE DELETED BY PLTS, NOT THE FMS. ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ARPT IS 39 NM BEYOND THE RESTR AT BRONC INTXN WHICH IS NORMALLY (250 KTS/11000 FT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.