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Attributes | |
ACN | 362301 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vcn airport : miv |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : acy tracon : dov |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Galaxy (C5A) |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 7 controller supervisory : 7 flight time total : 106 |
ASRS Report | 362301 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : flight data |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was vectoring the PA31 for an ILS runway 10 at miv airport. This requires coordination with an adjacent facility, dover RAPCON. The OM for the ILS runway 10 lies on our common airspace boundary and vectors for the approach requires the aircraft to utilize approximately 5-7 mi of dover's airspace. The normal procedure is to request the 'ILS block for miv' descending to 3000 ft. This block is depicted on both facility's video maps. The sector was busy with traffic so I requested the data person to get the block and he replied that 'we have it.' the PA31 was vectored to intercept the localizer 6 mi from ladie OM. At that point, I observed a target at 3000 ft and 1.5 NM west of the PA31, and within the block. When I asked dov who the aircraft was, he stated a C5 on approach to dov. When I asked if I had the block, he said affirmative. After discussion with my data person, he stated that he had received a pointout from dov and not the block. Although a breakdown in communications did occur, a loss of separation should not have occurred if dover RAPCON had paid attention to the pointout they approved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR OCCURRED WHEN RPTR VECTORED PA31 IN CLOSE PROX TO C5 IN COORDINATED AIRSPACE BLOCK. RPTR'S DATA PERSON HAD REQUESTED AND RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR THE BLOCK FROM DOV APCH WHICH INVOLVED THE C5 POINTOUT. THE RPTR WAS UNAWARE OF THE C5 AND CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THE AREA BASED ON THE TFC POINTOUT.
Narrative: I WAS VECTORING THE PA31 FOR AN ILS RWY 10 AT MIV ARPT. THIS REQUIRES COORD WITH AN ADJACENT FACILITY, DOVER RAPCON. THE OM FOR THE ILS RWY 10 LIES ON OUR COMMON AIRSPACE BOUNDARY AND VECTORS FOR THE APCH REQUIRES THE ACFT TO UTILIZE APPROX 5-7 MI OF DOVER'S AIRSPACE. THE NORMAL PROC IS TO REQUEST THE 'ILS BLOCK FOR MIV' DSNDING TO 3000 FT. THIS BLOCK IS DEPICTED ON BOTH FACILITY'S VIDEO MAPS. THE SECTOR WAS BUSY WITH TFC SO I REQUESTED THE DATA PERSON TO GET THE BLOCK AND HE REPLIED THAT 'WE HAVE IT.' THE PA31 WAS VECTORED TO INTERCEPT THE LOC 6 MI FROM LADIE OM. AT THAT POINT, I OBSERVED A TARGET AT 3000 FT AND 1.5 NM W OF THE PA31, AND WITHIN THE BLOCK. WHEN I ASKED DOV WHO THE ACFT WAS, HE STATED A C5 ON APCH TO DOV. WHEN I ASKED IF I HAD THE BLOCK, HE SAID AFFIRMATIVE. AFTER DISCUSSION WITH MY DATA PERSON, HE STATED THAT HE HAD RECEIVED A POINTOUT FROM DOV AND NOT THE BLOCK. ALTHOUGH A BREAKDOWN IN COMS DID OCCUR, A LOSS OF SEPARATION SHOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF DOVER RAPCON HAD PAID ATTN TO THE POINTOUT THEY APPROVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.