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Air carrier large transport #2 engine has no left ignition for starting at ogg, hi. Starts #2 engine with right ignition and gets a maintenance deferral for the problem. Takes off for the mainland. Receives an ACARS message to return to ogg. Confers with local maintenance and diverts to hnl for repair. Ignition system a 'no-go' item for ETOPS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362806 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ogg |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhn tower : ogg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff other |
| Route In Use | enroute : pacific enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : zhn |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 22500 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 362806 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
#2 engine no start on left ignition, the restart on right ignition ok. Called air carrier maintenance operations and given deferral and signature. Took off from ogg and ACARS requested we return to ogg. After discussion with copilot and maintenance in hnl, decided to burn fuel and land in hnl. Landed hnl under maximum weight. Repair completed and redispatched hnl-sfo, no further action. Suggest copy be sent to crew over ACARS to prevent wrong deferral, so crew can view same paperwork as maintenance office, that way everyone is on same extended operations page.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT #2 ENG HAS NO L IGNITION FOR STARTING AT OGG, HI. STARTS #2 ENG WITH R IGNITION AND GETS A MAINT DEFERRAL FOR THE PROB. TAKES OFF FOR THE MAINLAND. RECEIVES AN ACARS MESSAGE TO RETURN TO OGG. CONFERS WITH LCL MAINT AND DIVERTS TO HNL FOR REPAIR. IGNITION SYS A 'NO-GO' ITEM FOR ETOPS.
Narrative: #2 ENG NO START ON L IGNITION, THE RESTART ON R IGNITION OK. CALLED ACR MAINT OPS AND GIVEN DEFERRAL AND SIGNATURE. TOOK OFF FROM OGG AND ACARS REQUESTED WE RETURN TO OGG. AFTER DISCUSSION WITH COPLT AND MAINT IN HNL, DECIDED TO BURN FUEL AND LAND IN HNL. LANDED HNL UNDER MAX WT. REPAIR COMPLETED AND REDISPATCHED HNL-SFO, NO FURTHER ACTION. SUGGEST COPY BE SENT TO CREW OVER ACARS TO PREVENT WRONG DEFERRAL, SO CREW CAN VIEW SAME PAPERWORK AS MAINT OFFICE, THAT WAY EVERYONE IS ON SAME EXTENDED OPS PAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.