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Reporter situation of approach controller placing aircraft inside the OM and high for an ILS approach. Reporter claims this is a continuing problem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 363898 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sdf |
| State Reference | KY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sdf |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-88 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 363898 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Controller asks if field in sight with runway lights at lowest level or off. Put us close and high abeam expecting to accept slam visual. Then vectors us inside marker for ILS about 1 1/2 DOT high to shorter of runways. This guy needs to be counseled. He needs to get with or get out of the program. It's a continuing problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR SIT OF APCH CTLR PLACING ACFT INSIDE THE OM AND HIGH FOR AN ILS APCH. RPTR CLAIMS THIS IS A CONTINUING PROB.
Narrative: CTLR ASKS IF FIELD IN SIGHT WITH RWY LIGHTS AT LOWEST LEVEL OR OFF. PUT US CLOSE AND HIGH ABEAM EXPECTING TO ACCEPT SLAM VISUAL. THEN VECTORS US INSIDE MARKER FOR ILS ABOUT 1 1/2 DOT HIGH TO SHORTER OF RWYS. THIS GUY NEEDS TO BE COUNSELED. HE NEEDS TO GET WITH OR GET OUT OF THE PROGRAM. IT'S A CONTINUING PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.