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Attributes | |
ACN | 364140 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 364140 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The last movement of the aircraft was at PM25 EST +15 mins as per operations manual at an out station. This gave us a release time of PM40. We reported at AM30 the next morning. It was not until after takeoff that we realized that we had reported 10 mins too soon. We had called crew scheduling the previous night, and they had assured us that we were legal. It is hard to work these time and duty regulations when you are fatigued. This trip had been particularly stressful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN RJ FLC RPTS FOR DUTY 10 MINS EARLY, THUS VIOLATING THEIR REST PERIOD RPT TIME.
Narrative: THE LAST MOVEMENT OF THE ACFT WAS AT PM25 EST +15 MINS AS PER OPS MANUAL AT AN OUT STATION. THIS GAVE US A RELEASE TIME OF PM40. WE RPTED AT AM30 THE NEXT MORNING. IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER TKOF THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD RPTED 10 MINS TOO SOON. WE HAD CALLED CREW SCHEDULING THE PREVIOUS NIGHT, AND THEY HAD ASSURED US THAT WE WERE LEGAL. IT IS HARD TO WORK THESE TIME AND DUTY REGS WHEN YOU ARE FATIGUED. THIS TRIP HAD BEEN PARTICULARLY STRESSFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.