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B747-100 aircraft taxiing was cleared to taxi via runways and on to departure runway full length. When taxiing onto the active runway, controller told them to hold short, but they were already on the runway. A small aircraft landed long on the same runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 364391 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : anc |
| State Reference | AK |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747-100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 364391 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 364264 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was taxiing on taxiway right to runway 32. We were holding short of taxiway left for a light twin. The controller said he didn't know how long the twin would be there and for us to continue on taxiway right to runway 6L to runway 32 full length. We did as was instructed but when we were about 1/2 way on runway 32 the controller told us to hold short, a little late. A single engine airplane landed upfield from the numbers and no conflict occurred. Our crew was confused by the controller who told us to taxi to runway 32 full length without additional instructions to hold short or position and hold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747-100 ACFT TAXIING WAS CLRED TO TAXI VIA RWYS AND ON TO DEP RWY FULL LENGTH. WHEN TAXIING ONTO THE ACTIVE RWY, CTLR TOLD THEM TO HOLD SHORT, BUT THEY WERE ALREADY ON THE RWY. A SMALL ACFT LANDED LONG ON THE SAME RWY.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS TAXIING ON TXWY R TO RWY 32. WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF TXWY L FOR A LIGHT TWIN. THE CTLR SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG THE TWIN WOULD BE THERE AND FOR US TO CONTINUE ON TXWY R TO RWY 6L TO RWY 32 FULL LENGTH. WE DID AS WAS INSTRUCTED BUT WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 1/2 WAY ON RWY 32 THE CTLR TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT, A LITTLE LATE. A SINGLE ENG AIRPLANE LANDED UPFIELD FROM THE NUMBERS AND NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. OUR CREW WAS CONFUSED BY THE CTLR WHO TOLD US TO TAXI TO RWY 32 FULL LENGTH WITHOUT ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD SHORT OR POS AND HOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.