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Attributes | |
ACN | 364760 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yyz |
State Reference | ON |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : yyz tower : yyz tower : jfk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 364760 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared for takeoff runway 33 which has strict noise abatement procedure. Advised to 'contact departure airborne.' took off and flew the headings/intercepted radial, etc, but focused on the procedure, failed to contact departure until leveling off at 5000 ft. While I prefer the canadian method, the fact that we do it rarely, presents a problem when other distractions or procedures exist. The answer? Perhaps just increased emphasis for united states pilots and canadian controllers that this procedure can, at times, lead to lapses in communication. Thanks for considering this input.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 33 CONTACT DEP CTL WHEN AIRBORNE. FOLLOWING STRICT NOISE ABATEMENT PROC AND FAILED TO CALL DEP.
Narrative: CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 33 WHICH HAS STRICT NOISE ABATEMENT PROC. ADVISED TO 'CONTACT DEP AIRBORNE.' TOOK OFF AND FLEW THE HEADINGS/INTERCEPTED RADIAL, ETC, BUT FOCUSED ON THE PROC, FAILED TO CONTACT DEP UNTIL LEVELING OFF AT 5000 FT. WHILE I PREFER THE CANADIAN METHOD, THE FACT THAT WE DO IT RARELY, PRESENTS A PROB WHEN OTHER DISTRACTIONS OR PROCS EXIST. THE ANSWER? PERHAPS JUST INCREASED EMPHASIS FOR UNITED STATES PLTS AND CANADIAN CTLRS THAT THIS PROC CAN, AT TIMES, LEAD TO LAPSES IN COM. THANKS FOR CONSIDERING THIS INPUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.