Air carrier medium large transport after extended delay account wind and WX, when takeoff power appl...

Attributes
ACN	366400
Time
Date	199704
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Boeing Company Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 7000
ASRS Report	366400
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000
ASRS Report	366404
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : rejected takeoff
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

As power was advanced for takeoff, warning horn sounded. Takeoff trim was near aft limit. Taxied clear of active runway. Accomplished after landing, taxi, and before takeoff checklists. Moved trim a couple of turns forward, advanced power, no horn. Aborted takeoff was at less than 10 KTS, so returned to line and departed without incident. This has happened before when trim is aft, but I have learned our airline, with the help of some retired pilots, are including the limit check on stabilizer trim on their functional check flts out of one of the maintenance letter checks. This should help refine the horn calibration. On the boeing aircraft it seems there can be a small difference on the first officer setting. He/she sets trim for takeoff and the setting on the captain's side of the throttle quadrant. In this case both needles were inside green band. First officer reading just inside 5 nu captain's reading just outside 5 nu. The taxi at lga was over 1 hour due to wind and weight. Since we were using 1 engine for taxi, I could have brought non operating engine throttle up sometime during the taxi to check the setting. I'll probably include this in my personal check in future under like conditions since we see taxi when delays are expected and conditions on txwys allow.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG AFTER EXTENDED DELAY ACCOUNT WIND AND WX, WHEN TKOF PWR APPLIED GOT TKOF WARNING HORN. ABORTED TKOF AT 10 KTS AND EXITED THE RWY. FOUND AFT TRIM JUST OUT OF THE LIMITS AREA ON THE CAPT SIDE. RESET TRIM SLIGHTLY FORWARD AND NEXT TKOF OK.

Narrative: AS PWR WAS ADVANCED FOR TKOF, WARNING HORN SOUNDED. TKOF TRIM WAS NEAR AFT LIMIT. TAXIED CLR OF ACTIVE RWY. ACCOMPLISHED AFTER LNDG, TAXI, AND BEFORE TKOF CHKLISTS. MOVED TRIM A COUPLE OF TURNS FORWARD, ADVANCED PWR, NO HORN. ABORTED TKOF WAS AT LESS THAN 10 KTS, SO RETURNED TO LINE AND DEPARTED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE WHEN TRIM IS AFT, BUT I HAVE LEARNED OUR AIRLINE, WITH THE HELP OF SOME RETIRED PLTS, ARE INCLUDING THE LIMIT CHK ON STABILIZER TRIM ON THEIR FUNCTIONAL CHK FLTS OUT OF ONE OF THE MAINT LETTER CHKS. THIS SHOULD HELP REFINE THE HORN CALIBRATION. ON THE BOEING ACFT IT SEEMS THERE CAN BE A SMALL DIFFERENCE ON THE FO SETTING. HE/SHE SETS TRIM FOR TKOF AND THE SETTING ON THE CAPT'S SIDE OF THE THROTTLE QUADRANT. IN THIS CASE BOTH NEEDLES WERE INSIDE GREEN BAND. FO READING JUST INSIDE 5 NU CAPT'S READING JUST OUTSIDE 5 NU. THE TAXI AT LGA WAS OVER 1 HR DUE TO WIND AND WT. SINCE WE WERE USING 1 ENG FOR TAXI, I COULD HAVE BROUGHT NON OPERATING ENG THROTTLE UP SOMETIME DURING THE TAXI TO CHK THE SETTING. I'LL PROBABLY INCLUDE THIS IN MY PERSONAL CHK IN FUTURE UNDER LIKE CONDITIONS SINCE WE SEE TAXI WHEN DELAYS ARE EXPECTED AND CONDITIONS ON TXWYS ALLOW.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier medium large transport after extended delay account wind and WX, when takeoff power applied got takeoff warning horn. Aborted takeoff at 10 KTS and exited the runway. Found aft trim just out of the limits area on the captain side. Reset trim slightly forward and next takeoff ok.