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Attributes | |
ACN | 367565 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4700 |
ASRS Report | 367565 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were departing lax for jty in a B747-200, TOGW was 768000 pounds. An air carrier B747-400 departed just ahead of us. We delayed for normal heavy/heavy separation, and made an uneventful takeoff. Climbing through about 1000 ft the aircraft rolled hard left about 25 degrees, accompanied by some light chop. Immediate aileron input brought the wings back to level, and the remainder of the SID was uneventful. The wind was very light, conditions smooth and VFR. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter said that he watched the preceding B747-400 takeoff, but he did not give much thought to the possibility of encountering wake turbulence and the tower controller did not mention it either. Everyone in the cockpit was surprised. The captain said that the wind was fairly calm, he does not know the exact speed or direction, and the visibility was good. He said that he does not know the exact distance he was behind the -400, but he had his TCASII on the 6 mi range display and was not showing the target. He does know that he took off about 2, or a little more, mins after the - 400. They were still configured for takeoff and takeoff power was still on the aircraft. After this one encounter no further wake events occurred for the rest of the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B747-200 HITS THE WAKE OF A B747-400 JUST AFTER TKOF FROM LAX. THE ACR FLC SAID THEIR ACFT ROLLED 25 DEGS TO THE L, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO STOP THE ROLL AND RESTORE LEVEL ACFT ATTITUDE.
Narrative: WE WERE DEPARTING LAX FOR JTY IN A B747-200, TOGW WAS 768000 LBS. AN ACR B747-400 DEPARTED JUST AHEAD OF US. WE DELAYED FOR NORMAL HVY/HVY SEPARATION, AND MADE AN UNEVENTFUL TKOF. CLBING THROUGH ABOUT 1000 FT THE ACFT ROLLED HARD L ABOUT 25 DEGS, ACCOMPANIED BY SOME LIGHT CHOP. IMMEDIATE AILERON INPUT BROUGHT THE WINGS BACK TO LEVEL, AND THE REMAINDER OF THE SID WAS UNEVENTFUL. THE WIND WAS VERY LIGHT, CONDITIONS SMOOTH AND VFR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR SAID THAT HE WATCHED THE PRECEDING B747-400 TKOF, BUT HE DID NOT GIVE MUCH THOUGHT TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ENCOUNTERING WAKE TURB AND THE TWR CTLR DID NOT MENTION IT EITHER. EVERYONE IN THE COCKPIT WAS SURPRISED. THE CAPT SAID THAT THE WIND WAS FAIRLY CALM, HE DOES NOT KNOW THE EXACT SPD OR DIRECTION, AND THE VISIBILITY WAS GOOD. HE SAID THAT HE DOES NOT KNOW THE EXACT DISTANCE HE WAS BEHIND THE -400, BUT HE HAD HIS TCASII ON THE 6 MI RANGE DISPLAY AND WAS NOT SHOWING THE TARGET. HE DOES KNOW THAT HE TOOK OFF ABOUT 2, OR A LITTLE MORE, MINS AFTER THE - 400. THEY WERE STILL CONFIGURED FOR TKOF AND TKOF PWR WAS STILL ON THE ACFT. AFTER THIS ONE ENCOUNTER NO FURTHER WAKE EVENTS OCCURRED FOR THE REST OF THE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.