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ATCT controller complaint about aircraft doing their runup on runway 6-24 without approval when they are cleared to runway 29. Reporter says local pilots have been told this was ok by an 'aviation education representative.'
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 367790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gjt |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : czyz |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar pilot : private |
| ASRS Report | 367790 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
A C172 was instructed to taxi to runway 29. Pilot taxied out onto runway 4/22 and did a runup for approximately 8 mins without approval to access this runway. Only local pilots access runway 4/22 when instructed to taxi to runway 29. All transient pilots will hold short of runway 4/22. Local pilots do this because the aviation education representative has persistently told local pilots they can access this runway without approval from the tower. Again, if an accident occurs -- regardless of the reason -- while a pilot is on runway 4/22 without approval from the tower, who will be liable for the accident? The word 'cross' does not mean the same thing as 'access.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT CTLR COMPLAINT ABOUT ACFT DOING THEIR RUNUP ON RWY 6-24 WITHOUT APPROVAL WHEN THEY ARE CLRED TO RWY 29. RPTR SAYS LCL PLTS HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS WAS OK BY AN 'AVIATION EDUCATION REPRESENTATIVE.'
Narrative: A C172 WAS INSTRUCTED TO TAXI TO RWY 29. PLT TAXIED OUT ONTO RWY 4/22 AND DID A RUNUP FOR APPROX 8 MINS WITHOUT APPROVAL TO ACCESS THIS RWY. ONLY LCL PLTS ACCESS RWY 4/22 WHEN INSTRUCTED TO TAXI TO RWY 29. ALL TRANSIENT PLTS WILL HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4/22. LCL PLTS DO THIS BECAUSE THE AVIATION EDUCATION REPRESENTATIVE HAS PERSISTENTLY TOLD LCL PLTS THEY CAN ACCESS THIS RWY WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE TWR. AGAIN, IF AN ACCIDENT OCCURS -- REGARDLESS OF THE REASON -- WHILE A PLT IS ON RWY 4/22 WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE TWR, WHO WILL BE LIABLE FOR THE ACCIDENT? THE WORD 'CROSS' DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME THING AS 'ACCESS.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.