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Attributes | |
ACN | 369013 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 10420 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 369013 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Cleared for approach for runway 9R at mia, told to maintain 190 KTS until within OM. At 20 mi out from dph VOR/DME, while on localizer for runway 9R, ATC advised a B757 would be cleared 4 mi ahead and to maintain speed. B757 intercepted localizer at 13 mi out, at 4000 ft placing us 4 mi behind and 1000 ft below. We briefed for evasive action in event of wake and maintained 190 KTS. This procedure is standard operation for mia and is a constant source of frustration for all turboprop aircraft, ie, wake sinks normally between 800-1000 FPM. At 190 KTS you traverse 3.16 mi per min. It was not a question of 'if' you will intercept wake, it is a question of when. We encountered a rolling motion shear which rotated our heavily loaded craft 35 degrees left, then right 15 degrees, requiring full scale aileron deflection to recover. Mia approach has been asked over and over again to bring intercepting aircraft in at the same altitude rather than 1000 ft higher. We have had 2 flight attendants thrown around in the past 3 months because of this. This has been done for over 2 yrs and has caused problems since its implementation. We have made it a point to brief this problem as soon as we realize the procedure is being used while we are trailing on the approach. Unless all aircraft are at the same altitude or the heavies kept 1000 ft below, this problem will continue until someone is severely hurt. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter took part in wake turbulence structured callback program. Reporter submitted report mainly to complain about the repeated traffic pattern used to keep turboprops lower than turbojets until GS intercept. This procedure always results in the lower aircraft flying through any wake of a heavier aircraft. This incident was inconvenient and uncomfortable, but the loss of control did not last too long and it was not close to the ground. Reporter had several passenger complaints regarding the turbulence but no injuries. Loss of control lasted about 10 seconds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF340B ENCOUNTERS WAKE TURB FOLLOWING A B757 ACFT ON APCH INTO MIA.
Narrative: CLRED FOR APCH FOR RWY 9R AT MIA, TOLD TO MAINTAIN 190 KTS UNTIL WITHIN OM. AT 20 MI OUT FROM DPH VOR/DME, WHILE ON LOC FOR RWY 9R, ATC ADVISED A B757 WOULD BE CLRED 4 MI AHEAD AND TO MAINTAIN SPD. B757 INTERCEPTED LOC AT 13 MI OUT, AT 4000 FT PLACING US 4 MI BEHIND AND 1000 FT BELOW. WE BRIEFED FOR EVASIVE ACTION IN EVENT OF WAKE AND MAINTAINED 190 KTS. THIS PROC IS STANDARD OP FOR MIA AND IS A CONSTANT SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION FOR ALL TURBOPROP ACFT, IE, WAKE SINKS NORMALLY BTWN 800-1000 FPM. AT 190 KTS YOU TRAVERSE 3.16 MI PER MIN. IT WAS NOT A QUESTION OF 'IF' YOU WILL INTERCEPT WAKE, IT IS A QUESTION OF WHEN. WE ENCOUNTERED A ROLLING MOTION SHEAR WHICH ROTATED OUR HEAVILY LOADED CRAFT 35 DEGS L, THEN R 15 DEGS, REQUIRING FULL SCALE AILERON DEFLECTION TO RECOVER. MIA APCH HAS BEEN ASKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO BRING INTERCEPTING ACFT IN AT THE SAME ALT RATHER THAN 1000 FT HIGHER. WE HAVE HAD 2 FLT ATTENDANTS THROWN AROUND IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS BECAUSE OF THIS. THIS HAS BEEN DONE FOR OVER 2 YRS AND HAS CAUSED PROBS SINCE ITS IMPLEMENTATION. WE HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO BRIEF THIS PROB AS SOON AS WE REALIZE THE PROC IS BEING USED WHILE WE ARE TRAILING ON THE APCH. UNLESS ALL ACFT ARE AT THE SAME ALT OR THE HEAVIES KEPT 1000 FT BELOW, THIS PROB WILL CONTINUE UNTIL SOMEONE IS SEVERELY HURT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR TOOK PART IN WAKE TURB STRUCTURED CALLBACK PROGRAM. RPTR SUBMITTED RPT MAINLY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE REPEATED TFC PATTERN USED TO KEEP TURBOPROPS LOWER THAN TURBOJETS UNTIL GS INTERCEPT. THIS PROC ALWAYS RESULTS IN THE LOWER ACFT FLYING THROUGH ANY WAKE OF A HEAVIER ACFT. THIS INCIDENT WAS INCONVENIENT AND UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT THE LOSS OF CTL DID NOT LAST TOO LONG AND IT WAS NOT CLOSE TO THE GND. RPTR HAD SEVERAL PAX COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE TURB BUT NO INJURIES. LOSS OF CTL LASTED ABOUT 10 SECONDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.