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Attributes | |
ACN | 370464 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rno |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno artcc : zma |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 370464 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5700 |
ASRS Report | 370041 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared for mustang 4, runway 17R, vectors to join J92. During climb, allowed distrs (aircraft spacing on aircraft 4-5 mi ahead, its jet wash, radio calls), plus not-to-scale drawing and thinking 'vectors' to join to J92 to 'get in the way' of primary job of flying the SID (backing up the captain who was flying). (This occurred even though we mentioned the 3 DME turn in the pre takeoff briefing.) began turn when controller asked us if we were cleared the fmg 4. I responded 'yes.' he then asked, 'when are you going to turn?' we turned immediately at that point. Causes: distrs (minor), not-to-scale drawing, my error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FLC OF AN ACR MLG FAIL TO TURN AS INSTRUCTED IN THE SID PROC. THE DEP CTLR ALERTS THEM TO THEIR ERROR.
Narrative: CLRED FOR MUSTANG 4, RWY 17R, VECTORS TO JOIN J92. DURING CLB, ALLOWED DISTRS (ACFT SPACING ON ACFT 4-5 MI AHEAD, ITS JET WASH, RADIO CALLS), PLUS NOT-TO-SCALE DRAWING AND THINKING 'VECTORS' TO JOIN TO J92 TO 'GET IN THE WAY' OF PRIMARY JOB OF FLYING THE SID (BACKING UP THE CAPT WHO WAS FLYING). (THIS OCCURRED EVEN THOUGH WE MENTIONED THE 3 DME TURN IN THE PRE TKOF BRIEFING.) BEGAN TURN WHEN CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE CLRED THE FMG 4. I RESPONDED 'YES.' HE THEN ASKED, 'WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN?' WE TURNED IMMEDIATELY AT THAT POINT. CAUSES: DISTRS (MINOR), NOT-TO-SCALE DRAWING, MY ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.