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An instructor and his student pilot on a cross country flight note a parachute symbol on the map, but were told that there were no NOTAMS for that area. Later, as they flew through the area they saw parachutes and a military helicopter near them in the area. C152 parachutists military helicopter.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 370982 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ign |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 370982 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This flight was to be a routine cross country flight. Upon looking over the route of flight, the student saw the parachute symbol and asked for any NOTAMS for the time we would be in the area. Millville FSS did not advise any. Off we went. Our route was from cdw to pou and return. Upon reaching our destination, we landed and departed for home. As we reached the point of the parachute symbol, the student pointed out 3 parachutists floating by the right wingtip. I could see there was not going to be any conflict, so no evasive action was taken. What did cause a lot of concern to the student and me was a military army helicopter in our 4 O'clock position much less than 500 ft away. After a period of time the helicopter peeled off and left. While no NOTAMS were given for this area, if we had listened to an ATC frequency we might have heard an advisory for parachute jumping in this area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN INSTRUCTOR AND HIS STUDENT PLT ON A XCOUNTRY FLT NOTE A PARACHUTE SYMBOL ON THE MAP, BUT WERE TOLD THAT THERE WERE NO NOTAMS FOR THAT AREA. LATER, AS THEY FLEW THROUGH THE AREA THEY SAW PARACHUTES AND A MIL HELI NEAR THEM IN THE AREA. C152 PARACHUTISTS MIL HELI.
Narrative: THIS FLT WAS TO BE A ROUTINE XCOUNTRY FLT. UPON LOOKING OVER THE RTE OF FLT, THE STUDENT SAW THE PARACHUTE SYMBOL AND ASKED FOR ANY NOTAMS FOR THE TIME WE WOULD BE IN THE AREA. MILLVILLE FSS DID NOT ADVISE ANY. OFF WE WENT. OUR RTE WAS FROM CDW TO POU AND RETURN. UPON REACHING OUR DEST, WE LANDED AND DEPARTED FOR HOME. AS WE REACHED THE POINT OF THE PARACHUTE SYMBOL, THE STUDENT POINTED OUT 3 PARACHUTISTS FLOATING BY THE R WINGTIP. I COULD SEE THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ANY CONFLICT, SO NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN. WHAT DID CAUSE A LOT OF CONCERN TO THE STUDENT AND ME WAS A MIL ARMY HELI IN OUR 4 O'CLOCK POS MUCH LESS THAN 500 FT AWAY. AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME THE HELI PEELED OFF AND LEFT. WHILE NO NOTAMS WERE GIVEN FOR THIS AREA, IF WE HAD LISTENED TO AN ATC FREQ WE MIGHT HAVE HEARD AN ADVISORY FOR PARACHUTE JUMPING IN THIS AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.