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Attributes | |
ACN | 372576 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cmh |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tracon : cmh |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors enroute airway : cmh |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 6010 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 372576 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our far part 121 flight departed cmh and was being vectored by departure prior to being turned on course. Our heading was 270 degrees and the captain was the PF this leg back to ord. Our takeoff and climb had been routine to this point. Upon passing 8500 ft MSL, both the captain and myself spotted a v-tail bonanza at our 12:30 O'clock position going the opposite direction. Our 2 aircraft came within about 1000 ft of each other. Both cmh departure and ZID said they did not show any other aircraft in our area when we later told them what had just occurred. Contributing factors were: 1) the v-tail was cruising at 8500 ft on a 090 degree heading. This was the wrong altitude for direction of flight. 2) the bonanza did not have his transponder on, so we did not get any TCASII information on him. This also kept cmh and ind from picking him up on radar. 3) the bonanza was extremely close to the class C at cmh to not be in radio communications with them. 4) although both of us were scanning for traffic, this v-tail became a real threat to our flight. We don't think he ever saw us because he never altered his course in any way.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ATR42 OBSERVED A BEECH 35 AT THEIR SAME ALT AND GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION WITH NO TIME TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION DURING DEP CLB AND JUST GETTING READY TO BE TURNED OVER TO CTR FROM DEP CTL. THE BE35 WAS NOT AT THE APPROPRIATE ALT FOR THE DIRECTION OF FLT.
Narrative: OUR FAR PART 121 FLT DEPARTED CMH AND WAS BEING VECTORED BY DEP PRIOR TO BEING TURNED ON COURSE. OUR HDG WAS 270 DEGS AND THE CAPT WAS THE PF THIS LEG BACK TO ORD. OUR TKOF AND CLB HAD BEEN ROUTINE TO THIS POINT. UPON PASSING 8500 FT MSL, BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF SPOTTED A V-TAIL BONANZA AT OUR 12:30 O'CLOCK POS GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. OUR 2 ACFT CAME WITHIN ABOUT 1000 FT OF EACH OTHER. BOTH CMH DEP AND ZID SAID THEY DID NOT SHOW ANY OTHER ACFT IN OUR AREA WHEN WE LATER TOLD THEM WHAT HAD JUST OCCURRED. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE: 1) THE V-TAIL WAS CRUISING AT 8500 FT ON A 090 DEG HDG. THIS WAS THE WRONG ALT FOR DIRECTION OF FLT. 2) THE BONANZA DID NOT HAVE HIS XPONDER ON, SO WE DID NOT GET ANY TCASII INFO ON HIM. THIS ALSO KEPT CMH AND IND FROM PICKING HIM UP ON RADAR. 3) THE BONANZA WAS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE CLASS C AT CMH TO NOT BE IN RADIO COMS WITH THEM. 4) ALTHOUGH BOTH OF US WERE SCANNING FOR TFC, THIS V-TAIL BECAME A REAL THREAT TO OUR FLT. WE DON'T THINK HE EVER SAW US BECAUSE HE NEVER ALTERED HIS COURSE IN ANY WAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.