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Attributes | |
ACN | 381385 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 381385 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 380927 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After a normal approach and landing to runway 1 msy and subsequent rollout to the end for a turnoff to the left at taxiway south, approximately 500-800 ft from the end of the runway and while on centerline a noticeable decrease in braking effectiveness was observed. It appeared the aircraft was 'sliding.' the captain (who was now taxiing the aircraft after I xferred the controls at the required '80 KTS' call) began the left turn to taxiway south, again brake effectiveness was lost and the aircraft started to 'slide' forward. This occurred even when maximum braking and left steering was applied. The nosewheel began to depart the pavement and engine reverse was selected to no avail. The aircraft stopped approximately 25-50 ft into the grass, with the main landing gear remaining on the pavement. I contribute the loss of braking to the fact that the runways had not received rain in over 3 weeks and were greasy and oily. Also, the paint on the runways was very slick (this is from physically walking on the runway) and the paint was so thick that it filled the grooves in the asphalt. Supplemental information from acn 380927: there were no injuries to passenger or crew. And aircraft was not damaged and returned to service later that night after being checked. After all passenger and crew were deplaned, I walked back to the end of runway 19 (rollout end of runway 1) and observed our skid marks on painted markings on runway. Paint was so slick that I slid when I tried to run and stop with my shoes. We could see paint marks that the main landing gear picked up while trying to stop. I believe the airport authority/authorized should make sure that when repainting they do not cover over grooves in runway. Also more abrasive material should be applied with runway paint so as to help deceleration not cause aircraft to slide when wet.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MD80 FLC SLID OFF THE END OF RWY 1 AT MSY DURING A LNDG ROLLOUT IN A RAIN STORM. THE NOSE GEAR LEFT THE HARD SURFACE AND THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO THE ACFT OR INJURIES TO THE PAX. THE FLC RPTS THE PAINT AT THE END OF THE RWY FILLED THE GROOVES AND THAT ALONG WITH THE NORMAL RUBBER DEPOSITS AND GREASE AND FUEL DROPPINGS CREATED A VERY SLICK SURFACE.
Narrative: AFTER A NORMAL APCH AND LNDG TO RWY 1 MSY AND SUBSEQUENT ROLLOUT TO THE END FOR A TURNOFF TO THE L AT TXWY S, APPROX 500-800 FT FROM THE END OF THE RWY AND WHILE ON CTRLINE A NOTICEABLE DECREASE IN BRAKING EFFECTIVENESS WAS OBSERVED. IT APPEARED THE ACFT WAS 'SLIDING.' THE CAPT (WHO WAS NOW TAXIING THE ACFT AFTER I XFERRED THE CTLS AT THE REQUIRED '80 KTS' CALL) BEGAN THE L TURN TO TXWY S, AGAIN BRAKE EFFECTIVENESS WAS LOST AND THE ACFT STARTED TO 'SLIDE' FORWARD. THIS OCCURRED EVEN WHEN MAX BRAKING AND L STEERING WAS APPLIED. THE NOSEWHEEL BEGAN TO DEPART THE PAVEMENT AND ENG REVERSE WAS SELECTED TO NO AVAIL. THE ACFT STOPPED APPROX 25-50 FT INTO THE GRASS, WITH THE MAIN LNDG GEAR REMAINING ON THE PAVEMENT. I CONTRIBUTE THE LOSS OF BRAKING TO THE FACT THAT THE RWYS HAD NOT RECEIVED RAIN IN OVER 3 WKS AND WERE GREASY AND OILY. ALSO, THE PAINT ON THE RWYS WAS VERY SLICK (THIS IS FROM PHYSICALLY WALKING ON THE RWY) AND THE PAINT WAS SO THICK THAT IT FILLED THE GROOVES IN THE ASPHALT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 380927: THERE WERE NO INJURIES TO PAX OR CREW. AND ACFT WAS NOT DAMAGED AND RETURNED TO SVC LATER THAT NIGHT AFTER BEING CHKED. AFTER ALL PAX AND CREW WERE DEPLANED, I WALKED BACK TO THE END OF RWY 19 (ROLLOUT END OF RWY 1) AND OBSERVED OUR SKID MARKS ON PAINTED MARKINGS ON RWY. PAINT WAS SO SLICK THAT I SLID WHEN I TRIED TO RUN AND STOP WITH MY SHOES. WE COULD SEE PAINT MARKS THAT THE MAIN LNDG GEAR PICKED UP WHILE TRYING TO STOP. I BELIEVE THE ARPT AUTH SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHEN REPAINTING THEY DO NOT COVER OVER GROOVES IN RWY. ALSO MORE ABRASIVE MATERIAL SHOULD BE APPLIED WITH RWY PAINT SO AS TO HELP DECELERATION NOT CAUSE ACFT TO SLIDE WHEN WET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.