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Attributes | |
ACN | 381526 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tje |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : rjff tower : hrl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 381526 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb to FL330 the air-conditioning system did not pressurize and we had a warning horn at 10000 ft cabin altitude. We attempted to use 'system knowledge' from memory to determine the problem and the fix. While unsuccessfully trying to stop the cabin rate of climb the passenger oxygen masks (the rubber jungle) deployed. We then turned to the checklist and found that we had not yet closed the cargo heat outflow valve. As soon as the outflow valve was closed, the cabin climb ceased and we were able to control the pressurization. We lowered the cabin altitude below 10000 ft and proceeded to our destination without further problem. The failure was later determined to be the left pack not operating normally. But the next error on the part of the crew was failure to immediately turn to the abnormal checklist. Had we done that in a timely manner, the cabin would have been controllable before the oxygen masks deployed, and cabin altitude would have been kept lower. There is no excuse -- use the checklist as the first response to any abnormal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 IN CLB LOST CABIN PRESSURE DUE TO THE L PACK FAILURE AND THE CARGO COMPARTMENT OUTFLOW VALVE LEFT OPEN.
Narrative: DURING CLB TO FL330 THE AIR-CONDITIONING SYS DID NOT PRESSURIZE AND WE HAD A WARNING HORN AT 10000 FT CABIN ALT. WE ATTEMPTED TO USE 'SYS KNOWLEDGE' FROM MEMORY TO DETERMINE THE PROB AND THE FIX. WHILE UNSUCCESSFULLY TRYING TO STOP THE CABIN RATE OF CLB THE PAX OXYGEN MASKS (THE RUBBER JUNGLE) DEPLOYED. WE THEN TURNED TO THE CHKLIST AND FOUND THAT WE HAD NOT YET CLOSED THE CARGO HEAT OUTFLOW VALVE. AS SOON AS THE OUTFLOW VALVE WAS CLOSED, THE CABIN CLB CEASED AND WE WERE ABLE TO CTL THE PRESSURIZATION. WE LOWERED THE CABIN ALT BELOW 10000 FT AND PROCEEDED TO OUR DEST WITHOUT FURTHER PROB. THE FAILURE WAS LATER DETERMINED TO BE THE L PACK NOT OPERATING NORMALLY. BUT THE NEXT ERROR ON THE PART OF THE CREW WAS FAILURE TO IMMEDIATELY TURN TO THE ABNORMAL CHKLIST. HAD WE DONE THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE CABIN WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTROLLABLE BEFORE THE OXYGEN MASKS DEPLOYED, AND CABIN ALT WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT LOWER. THERE IS NO EXCUSE -- USE THE CHKLIST AS THE FIRST RESPONSE TO ANY ABNORMAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.