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Attributes | |
ACN | 381897 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sjc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-46 Malibu |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 381897 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On short final to sjc airport, while with tower, we were configured to land on runway 30L. At least 2 light aircraft were to our right on runway 30R making patterns that caused traffic alerts between 2000 ft and 1000 ft on ILS GS and centerline. Both were seen and visually idented. At this time of day the sun was low in our face causing reduced visibility, particularly to our left, which was directly into the sun and haze. The tower also issued traffic of a piper malibu to our left for runway 29. We never saw him but the tower reported to us that he had us in sight. However, the malibu ended up underneath us as we were descending on GS and centerline (ILS). Our TCASII told us to monitor vertical speed and we slowed our descent. TCASII then said climb and we complied. During these warnings, I was looking for the malibu and as I started climbing I found him to my left and straight down, seeing only the top of the malibu. TCASII showed 100 ft separation. The malibu started moving left, back toward the centerline of runway 29. The TCASII RA stopped and we continued the approach to land. We told the tower he was too close, twice, after seeing him. This was after we were clear enough to continue the approach. I believe the tower, with traffic on both sides of us, should not allow a small plane to turn base into our final approach, but should extend downwind to avoid conflicts such as overshooting. Sna airport made a similar change and sjc is even more congested with traffic on 3 runways. Better positive VFR separation needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ACFT ON APCH TO SJC HAD SMA ACFT ON PARALLEL RWY APCHS. 2 PARALLEL RWYS WITH ACFT IN PATTERN, ONE EITHER SIDE OF RPTR, THE ACFT TO RPTR'S L OVERSHOT CTRLINE AND FLEW UNDER RPTR ON ILS APCH. EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH TCASII RA.
Narrative: ON SHORT FINAL TO SJC ARPT, WHILE WITH TWR, WE WERE CONFIGURED TO LAND ON RWY 30L. AT LEAST 2 LIGHT ACFT WERE TO OUR R ON RWY 30R MAKING PATTERNS THAT CAUSED TFC ALERTS BTWN 2000 FT AND 1000 FT ON ILS GS AND CTRLINE. BOTH WERE SEEN AND VISUALLY IDENTED. AT THIS TIME OF DAY THE SUN WAS LOW IN OUR FACE CAUSING REDUCED VISIBILITY, PARTICULARLY TO OUR L, WHICH WAS DIRECTLY INTO THE SUN AND HAZE. THE TWR ALSO ISSUED TFC OF A PIPER MALIBU TO OUR L FOR RWY 29. WE NEVER SAW HIM BUT THE TWR RPTED TO US THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT. HOWEVER, THE MALIBU ENDED UP UNDERNEATH US AS WE WERE DSNDING ON GS AND CTRLINE (ILS). OUR TCASII TOLD US TO MONITOR VERT SPD AND WE SLOWED OUR DSCNT. TCASII THEN SAID CLB AND WE COMPLIED. DURING THESE WARNINGS, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE MALIBU AND AS I STARTED CLBING I FOUND HIM TO MY L AND STRAIGHT DOWN, SEEING ONLY THE TOP OF THE MALIBU. TCASII SHOWED 100 FT SEPARATION. THE MALIBU STARTED MOVING L, BACK TOWARD THE CTRLINE OF RWY 29. THE TCASII RA STOPPED AND WE CONTINUED THE APCH TO LAND. WE TOLD THE TWR HE WAS TOO CLOSE, TWICE, AFTER SEEING HIM. THIS WAS AFTER WE WERE CLR ENOUGH TO CONTINUE THE APCH. I BELIEVE THE TWR, WITH TFC ON BOTH SIDES OF US, SHOULD NOT ALLOW A SMALL PLANE TO TURN BASE INTO OUR FINAL APCH, BUT SHOULD EXTEND DOWNWIND TO AVOID CONFLICTS SUCH AS OVERSHOOTING. SNA ARPT MADE A SIMILAR CHANGE AND SJC IS EVEN MORE CONGESTED WITH TFC ON 3 RWYS. BETTER POSITIVE VFR SEPARATION NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.