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Attributes | |
ACN | 383526 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 383526 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 383525 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were assigned runway 32L full length and a B727 was assigned runway 27L lahso runway 32L. He accepted and tower properly informed us of his location. He had just 6500 ft of available runway and with his deceleration rate it was hard to tell if he could stop before our intersection. There was a definite collision potential here. Further considering the potential of failed brakes or just bad judgement on the lahso I believed at the time a go around was a distinct possibility. I partially leveled off at 100 ft expecting such when he started clearing runway 27L. I wound up landing long and still managed to stop well before the end of the runway. I'm now a firm believer in the union position that lahso operations are inherently unsafe. Especially where 2 converging lndgs are occurring. Next time I will make an immediate decision to just go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80S ACFT ON APCH WAS INFORMED BY TWR THAT ANOTHER ACR ACFT B727 WAS LNDG ON AN INTERSECTING RWY WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO LAND AND HOLD SHORT OF RPTR'S RWY LAHSO. RPTR CAPT'S CONCERN WAS INSURING THE OTHER ACFT TURNED OFF THE RWY PRIOR TO HIS LNDG AND IN FACT LANDED LONG AS INSURANCE THOUGH THE OTHER ACFT EXITED THE RWY PRIOR TO THE RPTR ACFT LNDG. RPTR STATES THAT NEXT TIME HE WILL MAKE AN IMMEDIATE DECISION TO GAR.
Narrative: WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 32L FULL LENGTH AND A B727 WAS ASSIGNED RWY 27L LAHSO RWY 32L. HE ACCEPTED AND TWR PROPERLY INFORMED US OF HIS LOCATION. HE HAD JUST 6500 FT OF AVAILABLE RWY AND WITH HIS DECELERATION RATE IT WAS HARD TO TELL IF HE COULD STOP BEFORE OUR INTXN. THERE WAS A DEFINITE COLLISION POTENTIAL HERE. FURTHER CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL OF FAILED BRAKES OR JUST BAD JUDGEMENT ON THE LAHSO I BELIEVED AT THE TIME A GAR WAS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY. I PARTIALLY LEVELED OFF AT 100 FT EXPECTING SUCH WHEN HE STARTED CLRING RWY 27L. I WOUND UP LNDG LONG AND STILL MANAGED TO STOP WELL BEFORE THE END OF THE RWY. I'M NOW A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE UNION POS THAT LAHSO OPS ARE INHERENTLY UNSAFE. ESPECIALLY WHERE 2 CONVERGING LNDGS ARE OCCURRING. NEXT TIME I WILL MAKE AN IMMEDIATE DECISION TO JUST GAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.