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Attributes | |
ACN | 385426 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lye |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : saeu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : saeu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Israel Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 88 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 385426 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Flying from buenos aires, argentina, to santiago, chile (saez direct scel), FL240, we passed a turbo commander at the same altitude, same direction, same airway. This occurred over lye VOR. We passed approximately 1/2 mi to his right. ATC was notified (ezeiza control), at which point she cleared the turbo commander to FL220. I believe the commander had been previously cleared at FL240, and that it was a controller mistake -- but it is difficult to be sure as they were communicating in spanish. The solution to prevent this occurrence in the future is painfully simple: mandate that cargo aircraft be equipped with TCASII, as are passenger transport category aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF SEPARATION INVOLVING AN ACR B727 AND A PVT TURBO COMMANDER AT THE SAME ALT.
Narrative: FLYING FROM BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA, TO SANTIAGO, CHILE (SAEZ DIRECT SCEL), FL240, WE PASSED A TURBO COMMANDER AT THE SAME ALT, SAME DIRECTION, SAME AIRWAY. THIS OCCURRED OVER LYE VOR. WE PASSED APPROX 1/2 MI TO HIS R. ATC WAS NOTIFIED (EZEIZA CTL), AT WHICH POINT SHE CLRED THE TURBO COMMANDER TO FL220. I BELIEVE THE COMMANDER HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY CLRED AT FL240, AND THAT IT WAS A CTLR MISTAKE -- BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE SURE AS THEY WERE COMMUNICATING IN SPANISH. THE SOLUTION TO PREVENT THIS OCCURRENCE IN THE FUTURE IS PAINFULLY SIMPLE: MANDATE THAT CARGO ACFT BE EQUIPPED WITH TCASII, AS ARE PAX TRANSPORT CATEGORY ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.