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Attributes | |
ACN | 386100 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 386100 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We got a late turn on right at the marker to runway 36L descending out of IMC. We picked up the airport at approximately 1700 ft. Upon landing, when I passed the aircraft to captain and went to talk to tower to get clearance to cross inboard runway, the radio appeared to be on wrong frequency. The captain said he remembered getting landing clearance, but I didn't remember hearing it. The correct frequency was on the other head of radio, but I'm not sure if I flicked after landing, thinking I was going to ground or not. Tower made no mention of whether or not we weren't cleared to land. Brings up value of ensuring both pilots hear and acknowledge clearance to land. Even with a late turn on both pilots need to be assured clearance has been given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF B767S SWITCHES TO GND FREQ AFTER LNDG BUT WONDER IF THEY WERE ON THE R FREQ FOR LNDG. POSSIBLE LNDG WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WE GOT A LATE TURN ON RIGHT AT THE MARKER TO RWY 36L DSNDING OUT OF IMC. WE PICKED UP THE ARPT AT APPROX 1700 FT. UPON LNDG, WHEN I PASSED THE ACFT TO CAPT AND WENT TO TALK TO TWR TO GET CLRNC TO CROSS INBOARD RWY, THE RADIO APPEARED TO BE ON WRONG FREQ. THE CAPT SAID HE REMEMBERED GETTING LNDG CLRNC, BUT I DIDN'T REMEMBER HEARING IT. THE CORRECT FREQ WAS ON THE OTHER HEAD OF RADIO, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF I FLICKED AFTER LNDG, THINKING I WAS GOING TO GND OR NOT. TWR MADE NO MENTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WEREN'T CLRED TO LAND. BRINGS UP VALUE OF ENSURING BOTH PLTS HEAR AND ACKNOWLEDGE CLRNC TO LAND. EVEN WITH A LATE TURN ON BOTH PLTS NEED TO BE ASSURED CLRNC HAS BEEN GIVEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.