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Attributes | |
ACN | 386340 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : day |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : day tower : pwm |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : vuq Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 386340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had just received approach clearance and had joined the localizer outside the OM. We had not yet intercepted the GS and were above the minimum GS intercept altitude. The captain (PF) began a descent to minimum GS intercept altitude (at least I thought). As we approached the altitude, the captain did not appear to be leveling off. I announced that I was not receiving GS indications on my HSI and ADI. He immediately commanded a go around. We were revectored for the approach and landed without further incident. I believe part of the confusion on the captain's part was that he was hand flying when we initiated our descent toward GS intercept altitude. During this, he asked me to engage the autoplt and arm the ILS capture. Because he was beneath the GS at the time, the autoplt would remain in vertical speed mode until GS capture. Apparently he must have thought the autoplt captured. Better communications and choice of words on my part may have prevented the go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR DC9 FLC DSND BELOW THE GS INTERCEPT ALT WHILE STILL OUTSIDE OF THE OM. THE AUTOPLT SYS HAD DEFAULTED TO THE VERT SPD MODE WHEN IT WAS ACTIVATED AND ARMED FOR INTERCEPT WHILE BELOW THE GS AND THE CAPT DID NOT RECOGNIZE THIS.
Narrative: WE HAD JUST RECEIVED APCH CLRNC AND HAD JOINED THE LOC OUTSIDE THE OM. WE HAD NOT YET INTERCEPTED THE GS AND WERE ABOVE THE MINIMUM GS INTERCEPT ALT. THE CAPT (PF) BEGAN A DSCNT TO MINIMUM GS INTERCEPT ALT (AT LEAST I THOUGHT). AS WE APCHED THE ALT, THE CAPT DID NOT APPEAR TO BE LEVELING OFF. I ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS NOT RECEIVING GS INDICATIONS ON MY HSI AND ADI. HE IMMEDIATELY COMMANDED A GAR. WE WERE REVECTORED FOR THE APCH AND LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. I BELIEVE PART OF THE CONFUSION ON THE CAPT'S PART WAS THAT HE WAS HAND FLYING WHEN WE INITIATED OUR DSCNT TOWARD GS INTERCEPT ALT. DURING THIS, HE ASKED ME TO ENGAGE THE AUTOPLT AND ARM THE ILS CAPTURE. BECAUSE HE WAS BENEATH THE GS AT THE TIME, THE AUTOPLT WOULD REMAIN IN VERT SPD MODE UNTIL GS CAPTURE. APPARENTLY HE MUST HAVE THOUGHT THE AUTOPLT CAPTURED. BETTER COMS AND CHOICE OF WORDS ON MY PART MAY HAVE PREVENTED THE GAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.