37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 386762 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 386762 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft was cleared from ramp to taxi to runway 22L via taxiway a, taxiway A18, and taxiway D. After turning onto taxiway D, tower directed us to 'cut across the pad, cleared position and hold runway 22L, expect no delay on the runway.' flight attendants were notified and the takeoff checklist started. I taxied across the pad area and proceeded toward runway 22L by the taxiway directly ahead of me, believing it was to the departure end of runway 22L. As we approached, tower stated, 'cleared for takeoff runway 22L, aircraft on 3 mi final.' when the runway surface ahead came into view I expected to see markings for runway 22L but did not. I could only see that I was about to taxi onto the runway I thought was runway 22L at a point beyond the departure end and no idea how far down it I was. In addition, the fact I had not seen any markings for this runway I did not feel it safe to taxi onto it. From this point, takeoff was not an option. The aircraft was now situated on a taxiway placing it directly across the approach end of the runway surface to our immediate right. I then made 2 attempts to contact the tower but was unsuccessful. The tower was talking to the aircraft on final and directing the aircraft behind us to position and hold. Unsure of my position and knowing I was essentially on or blocking an active runway and unable to communicate with the tower I elected to taxi clear by way of the taxiway just to my right. I executed an s-turn to my right and left. I made a transmission on tower frequency that I was taxiing clear of the runway. Tower directed the aircraft on final to go around and promptly asked us if we would like to return to runway 22L for takeoff. I stated that would be fine for us and we were directed onto runway 22L for back taxi from taxiway S4 to the departure end. Asked if we needed any delay on the runway, we responded no, and were cleared for takeoff. The aircraft that had been behind us had not yet taxied into position and we departed in front of it. Contributing to the confusion in this situation is the fact that the area involved is a large single expanse of pavement. Judgement of location and distance from the 2 intersecting runways is difficult. The possibility of using the wrong runway is very real. The only thing to do is not move unless certain of your position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MD88 BECAME CONFUSED DURING TAXI FOR TKOF AND EXITED THE ACTIVE RWY AREA AFTER BEING CLRED FOR TKOF.
Narrative: ACFT WAS CLRED FROM RAMP TO TAXI TO RWY 22L VIA TXWY A, TXWY A18, AND TXWY D. AFTER TURNING ONTO TXWY D, TWR DIRECTED US TO 'CUT ACROSS THE PAD, CLRED POS AND HOLD RWY 22L, EXPECT NO DELAY ON THE RWY.' FLT ATTENDANTS WERE NOTIFIED AND THE TKOF CHKLIST STARTED. I TAXIED ACROSS THE PAD AREA AND PROCEEDED TOWARD RWY 22L BY THE TXWY DIRECTLY AHEAD OF ME, BELIEVING IT WAS TO THE DEP END OF RWY 22L. AS WE APCHED, TWR STATED, 'CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 22L, ACFT ON 3 MI FINAL.' WHEN THE RWY SURFACE AHEAD CAME INTO VIEW I EXPECTED TO SEE MARKINGS FOR RWY 22L BUT DID NOT. I COULD ONLY SEE THAT I WAS ABOUT TO TAXI ONTO THE RWY I THOUGHT WAS RWY 22L AT A POINT BEYOND THE DEP END AND NO IDEA HOW FAR DOWN IT I WAS. IN ADDITION, THE FACT I HAD NOT SEEN ANY MARKINGS FOR THIS RWY I DID NOT FEEL IT SAFE TO TAXI ONTO IT. FROM THIS POINT, TKOF WAS NOT AN OPTION. THE ACFT WAS NOW SITUATED ON A TXWY PLACING IT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE APCH END OF THE RWY SURFACE TO OUR IMMEDIATE R. I THEN MADE 2 ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT THE TWR BUT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. THE TWR WAS TALKING TO THE ACFT ON FINAL AND DIRECTING THE ACFT BEHIND US TO POS AND HOLD. UNSURE OF MY POS AND KNOWING I WAS ESSENTIALLY ON OR BLOCKING AN ACTIVE RWY AND UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE TWR I ELECTED TO TAXI CLR BY WAY OF THE TXWY JUST TO MY R. I EXECUTED AN S-TURN TO MY R AND L. I MADE A XMISSION ON TWR FREQ THAT I WAS TAXIING CLR OF THE RWY. TWR DIRECTED THE ACFT ON FINAL TO GAR AND PROMPTLY ASKED US IF WE WOULD LIKE TO RETURN TO RWY 22L FOR TKOF. I STATED THAT WOULD BE FINE FOR US AND WE WERE DIRECTED ONTO RWY 22L FOR BACK TAXI FROM TXWY S4 TO THE DEP END. ASKED IF WE NEEDED ANY DELAY ON THE RWY, WE RESPONDED NO, AND WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. THE ACFT THAT HAD BEEN BEHIND US HAD NOT YET TAXIED INTO POS AND WE DEPARTED IN FRONT OF IT. CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONFUSION IN THIS SIT IS THE FACT THAT THE AREA INVOLVED IS A LARGE SINGLE EXPANSE OF PAVEMENT. JUDGEMENT OF LOCATION AND DISTANCE FROM THE 2 INTERSECTING RWYS IS DIFFICULT. THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THE WRONG RWY IS VERY REAL. THE ONLY THING TO DO IS NOT MOVE UNLESS CERTAIN OF YOUR POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.