<< >> NASA ASRS Report 387860, December 1997

An air carrier B727 flight crew departed without an en route clearance from a foreign airport. The clearance was picked up from ARTCC later.

Attributes
ACN	387860
Time
Date	199712
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cur
State Reference	FO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : preflight ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	387860
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departed VFR with no IFR clearance. At cur, the tower gives en route clearance during taxi. Approaching the runway with all pretkof checks done, we reported ready for takeoff. The tower then cleared us for takeoff. We asked about the immediate left turnout after departure and we were cleared as requested. We were handed off to departure frequency. Conditions were cavu. Leaving 6000 ft it was realized that no altitude was set. When asked, the center cleared us to FL310. We then verified the routing and was given our as filed plan. No mention was made of the incident and I'm not really sure they even realize the oversight. I felt ok because we were VFR at all times. ATC clearance ascertained shortly after departure and all was well. Corrective action would require ATC to give en route clearance as we do in the united states prior to taxi.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR B727 FLC DEPARTED WITHOUT AN ENRTE CLRNC FROM A FOREIGN ARPT. THE CLRNC WAS PICKED UP FROM ARTCC LATER.

Narrative: DEPARTED VFR WITH NO IFR CLRNC. AT CUR, THE TWR GIVES ENRTE CLRNC DURING TAXI. APCHING THE RWY WITH ALL PRETKOF CHKS DONE, WE RPTED READY FOR TKOF. THE TWR THEN CLRED US FOR TKOF. WE ASKED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE L TURNOUT AFTER DEP AND WE WERE CLRED AS REQUESTED. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO DEP FREQ. CONDITIONS WERE CAVU. LEAVING 6000 FT IT WAS REALIZED THAT NO ALT WAS SET. WHEN ASKED, THE CTR CLRED US TO FL310. WE THEN VERIFIED THE ROUTING AND WAS GIVEN OUR AS FILED PLAN. NO MENTION WAS MADE OF THE INCIDENT AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE THEY EVEN REALIZE THE OVERSIGHT. I FELT OK BECAUSE WE WERE VFR AT ALL TIMES. ATC CLRNC ASCERTAINED SHORTLY AFTER DEP AND ALL WAS WELL. CORRECTIVE ACTION WOULD REQUIRE ATC TO GIVE ENRTE CLRNC AS WE DO IN THE UNITED STATES PRIOR TO TAXI.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.