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Attributes | |
ACN | 392130 |
Time | |
Date | 199801 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 6500 |
ASRS Report | 392130 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was given clearance to cross 25 DME northeast of sax. At 7000 ft, descent was begun at 45 DME, but due to other cockpit radios and communication with cabin crew, flight was late arriving at 7000 ft. ATC was notified of this and controller advised flight to continue descent and that it was in 'someone else's airspace.' there were no traffic conflicts and flight proceeded normally. Cockpit confusion was the cause, including high workload of crew. Recommend increased crew attention in high workload phases of flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG FLC CROSSED A NAV POINT TOO HIGH.
Narrative: FLT WAS GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS 25 DME NE OF SAX. AT 7000 FT, DSCNT WAS BEGUN AT 45 DME, BUT DUE TO OTHER COCKPIT RADIOS AND COM WITH CABIN CREW, FLT WAS LATE ARRIVING AT 7000 FT. ATC WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS AND CTLR ADVISED FLT TO CONTINUE DSCNT AND THAT IT WAS IN 'SOMEONE ELSE'S AIRSPACE.' THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS AND FLT PROCEEDED NORMALLY. COCKPIT CONFUSION WAS THE CAUSE, INCLUDING HIGH WORKLOAD OF CREW. RECOMMEND INCREASED CREW ATTN IN HIGH WORKLOAD PHASES OF FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.