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Attributes | |
ACN | 394900 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jen airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10700 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : dfw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 6200 flight time type : 633 |
ASRS Report | 394900 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were descending on the glen rose 3 arrival into dfw. Passing 20000 ft the flight attendants called but were unable to hear us through the interphone. The captain and I discussed whether we should put this in the logbook and if we had time to call ahead and notify maintenance (we did not). The captain then queried approach control about the speed restrs and approach said we could delete all restrs except at delmo, the last fix on the arrival. I deleted all previous speeds in the FMS but also inadvertently deleted the 11000 ft altitude restr at hirst, which still applied. Although the FMS showed we were on the correct descent profile, this was for the speed and altitude at delmo, not hirst. The captain noticed we were high and deployed the speed brake. We leveled at 11000 ft indicated and immediately realized we had been distracted (by the interphone problem and by trying to make the 11000 ft altitude at hirst which was not properly programmed in the FMS) and had not performed a descent check. Altimeters were still reading 29.92, and since the local setting was approximately 29.62, we were 300 ft low. We initiated a climb as ATC called to question our altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MD88 FAILED TO RESET ALTIMETERS DURING DSCNT THROUGH FL180 RESULTING IN OVERSHOOTING STAR XING ALT DUE TO DISTR OF AN ACFT EQUIP PROB. AS THEY WERE CORRECTING BACK TO THE XING ALT, ATC INTERVENED TO INQUIRE ABOUT THEIR ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE DSNDING ON THE GLEN ROSE 3 ARR INTO DFW. PASSING 20000 FT THE FLT ATTENDANTS CALLED BUT WERE UNABLE TO HEAR US THROUGH THE INTERPHONE. THE CAPT AND I DISCUSSED WHETHER WE SHOULD PUT THIS IN THE LOGBOOK AND IF WE HAD TIME TO CALL AHEAD AND NOTIFY MAINT (WE DID NOT). THE CAPT THEN QUERIED APCH CTL ABOUT THE SPD RESTRS AND APCH SAID WE COULD DELETE ALL RESTRS EXCEPT AT DELMO, THE LAST FIX ON THE ARR. I DELETED ALL PREVIOUS SPDS IN THE FMS BUT ALSO INADVERTENTLY DELETED THE 11000 FT ALT RESTR AT HIRST, WHICH STILL APPLIED. ALTHOUGH THE FMS SHOWED WE WERE ON THE CORRECT DSCNT PROFILE, THIS WAS FOR THE SPD AND ALT AT DELMO, NOT HIRST. THE CAPT NOTICED WE WERE HIGH AND DEPLOYED THE SPD BRAKE. WE LEVELED AT 11000 FT INDICATED AND IMMEDIATELY REALIZED WE HAD BEEN DISTRACTED (BY THE INTERPHONE PROB AND BY TRYING TO MAKE THE 11000 FT ALT AT HIRST WHICH WAS NOT PROPERLY PROGRAMMED IN THE FMS) AND HAD NOT PERFORMED A DSCNT CHK. ALTIMETERS WERE STILL READING 29.92, AND SINCE THE LCL SETTING WAS APPROX 29.62, WE WERE 300 FT LOW. WE INITIATED A CLB AS ATC CALLED TO QUESTION OUR ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.