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Attributes | |
ACN | 399840 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 399840 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 399832 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 7500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the PF inbound to clt on the shine 5 arrival. Our call sign was 'air carrier X abcd.' ATC instructed company aircraft 'air carrier X abef' to descend to 10000 ft. Both the captain and I mistook the clearance to be ours. I was descending through 11500 ft from 12000 ft when a resolution came over the TCASII. I made the correct evasive maneuver and started climbing. The captain notified ATC of the resolution. ATC came back and told us the clearance to descend to 10000 ft was for our company. I continued the climb back up to 12000 ft, our previous altitude. The first problem was that we did not listen to the clearance as carefully as we should have, knowing that a similar call sign was on the same frequency. The other problem was that, when we read back the clearance, we did so at the same time company did. ATC did not realize 2 aircraft were talking over the frequency at the same time. Even though ATC might not have heard our readback clearly, they must have known someone else was blocking the frequency and should have inquired about it. Supplemental information from acn 399832: would've preferred the controller clarifying the readback when he heard 2 aircraft respond. Instead, he seemed uninterested, even when the occurrence happened.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 CREW TAKES THE CLRNC MEANT FOR ANOTHER COMPANY FLT AND STARTS DSCNT INTO THE ALT OF ANOTHER FLT, A J31. BOTH FLCS HAD RESPONDED TO THE SAME CLRNC.
Narrative: I WAS THE PF INBOUND TO CLT ON THE SHINE 5 ARR. OUR CALL SIGN WAS 'ACR X ABCD.' ATC INSTRUCTED COMPANY ACFT 'ACR X ABEF' TO DSND TO 10000 FT. BOTH THE CAPT AND I MISTOOK THE CLRNC TO BE OURS. I WAS DSNDING THROUGH 11500 FT FROM 12000 FT WHEN A RESOLUTION CAME OVER THE TCASII. I MADE THE CORRECT EVASIVE MANEUVER AND STARTED CLBING. THE CAPT NOTIFIED ATC OF THE RESOLUTION. ATC CAME BACK AND TOLD US THE CLRNC TO DSND TO 10000 FT WAS FOR OUR COMPANY. I CONTINUED THE CLB BACK UP TO 12000 FT, OUR PREVIOUS ALT. THE FIRST PROB WAS THAT WE DID NOT LISTEN TO THE CLRNC AS CAREFULLY AS WE SHOULD HAVE, KNOWING THAT A SIMILAR CALL SIGN WAS ON THE SAME FREQ. THE OTHER PROB WAS THAT, WHEN WE READ BACK THE CLRNC, WE DID SO AT THE SAME TIME COMPANY DID. ATC DID NOT REALIZE 2 ACFT WERE TALKING OVER THE FREQ AT THE SAME TIME. EVEN THOUGH ATC MIGHT NOT HAVE HEARD OUR READBACK CLRLY, THEY MUST HAVE KNOWN SOMEONE ELSE WAS BLOCKING THE FREQ AND SHOULD HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT IT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 399832: WOULD'VE PREFERRED THE CTLR CLARIFYING THE READBACK WHEN HE HEARD 2 ACFT RESPOND. INSTEAD, HE SEEMED UNINTERESTED, EVEN WHEN THE OCCURRENCE HAPPENED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.