37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 400873 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : san |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 207 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 400873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During pushback from gate xa, ground control cleared us to push onto zz taxiway to remain clear of taxiway xy. Pushback and tow forward to allow company aircraft into gate. We were cleared to start engines after brake release. I monitored ground while starting the left engine. During start I noticed a lot of noise by the nose gear. I asked the captain if the brakes were set. He replied, 'no, he did not tell me to set brakes.' after starting the right engine I began monitoring flight interphone as there still was a lot of noise. Then I heard 'set brakes.' after the captain's response there was nothing for about 1 min. Then the pushback man told us to pull back into the gate as the aircraft rolled onto the towbar and they want to check for damage. The next thing we saw was a guide man trying to marshall us. We did not know if the guy disconnected his headset. After finding out from operations that he did, we started to taxi but stopped after only a few ft, as the plane would not turn. Another call to operations, then the steering pin was removed. We taxied to the gate. No other communication came until they asked us to call for pushback. Operations then got involved (they were equally uninformed) and told us there was only chipped paint. The second pushback, taxi out, and takeoff were uneventful. There was little or no communication from the ground crew. They failed to adhere to company sops.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A COMMERCIAL FIXED WING LGT AFTER PUSHBACK FROM THE GATE, THE TOWBAR WAS DISCONNECTED WITHOUT SETTING THE ACFT PARKING BRAKES THE ACFT ROLLED FORWARD STRIKING THE TOWBAR.
Narrative: DURING PUSHBACK FROM GATE XA, GND CTL CLRED US TO PUSH ONTO ZZ TXWY TO REMAIN CLR OF TXWY XY. PUSHBACK AND TOW FORWARD TO ALLOW COMPANY ACFT INTO GATE. WE WERE CLRED TO START ENGS AFTER BRAKE RELEASE. I MONITORED GND WHILE STARTING THE L ENG. DURING START I NOTICED A LOT OF NOISE BY THE NOSE GEAR. I ASKED THE CAPT IF THE BRAKES WERE SET. HE REPLIED, 'NO, HE DID NOT TELL ME TO SET BRAKES.' AFTER STARTING THE R ENG I BEGAN MONITORING FLT INTERPHONE AS THERE STILL WAS A LOT OF NOISE. THEN I HEARD 'SET BRAKES.' AFTER THE CAPT'S RESPONSE THERE WAS NOTHING FOR ABOUT 1 MIN. THEN THE PUSHBACK MAN TOLD US TO PULL BACK INTO THE GATE AS THE ACFT ROLLED ONTO THE TOWBAR AND THEY WANT TO CHK FOR DAMAGE. THE NEXT THING WE SAW WAS A GUIDE MAN TRYING TO MARSHALL US. WE DID NOT KNOW IF THE GUY DISCONNECTED HIS HEADSET. AFTER FINDING OUT FROM OPS THAT HE DID, WE STARTED TO TAXI BUT STOPPED AFTER ONLY A FEW FT, AS THE PLANE WOULD NOT TURN. ANOTHER CALL TO OPS, THEN THE STEERING PIN WAS REMOVED. WE TAXIED TO THE GATE. NO OTHER COM CAME UNTIL THEY ASKED US TO CALL FOR PUSHBACK. OPS THEN GOT INVOLVED (THEY WERE EQUALLY UNINFORMED) AND TOLD US THERE WAS ONLY CHIPPED PAINT. THE SECOND PUSHBACK, TAXI OUT, AND TKOF WERE UNEVENTFUL. THERE WAS LITTLE OR NO COM FROM THE GND CREW. THEY FAILED TO ADHERE TO COMPANY SOPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.