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Attributes | |
ACN | 401210 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dta |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Canadair/Bombardier Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10100 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 401210 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 401305 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft on flight from sfo to mdw on may/xa/98. We filed MVA, J84. Clearance gave lin J84 MVA as filed. We re-entered flight plan into MSA #1 and #2. Apparently, when re-entering, some data got deleted on the airway. After crossing MVA at XA11Z, the FMS #1 and #2 picked up a direct obh routing which put us some 11 mi north of the airway. Prior to reaching restr area R6405 which was hot, ATC asked us if we were on a heading assigned. We looked at the FMS's and informed him we were direct obh. He said he was not aware of that and gave us a 15 degree right vector for a few mins to avoid R6405 and then reclred us direct to obh. The FMS #3 was indicating the proper J84 the whole time. Our first error was data entry and confirmation during the rerte. The second error was not properly monitoring the progress on all FMS's. This latter error was made during a period in which we had experienced an air data computer failure and we were involved with checklist items and phone calls to maintenance operations and dispatch to discuss possible options. After the controller assigned us the heading, we crosschecked the FMS #1, #2 and #3 with flight plan and discovered our error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CANADAIR CL604. DATA DROPOUT ON FMS #1 AND #2. FMS #3 WAS NORMAL. CREW WAS WORKING AN AIR DATA COMPUTER FAILURE WHEN CTLR NOTICED OFF COURSE TRACK DEV. FMS #1 AND #2 HAD DROPPED FLT PLAN INFO AND WAS PROCEEDING DIRECT TO A WAYPOINT SEVERAL WAYPOINTS AHEAD.
Narrative: ACFT ON FLT FROM SFO TO MDW ON MAY/XA/98. WE FILED MVA, J84. CLRNC GAVE LIN J84 MVA AS FILED. WE RE-ENTERED FLT PLAN INTO MSA #1 AND #2. APPARENTLY, WHEN RE-ENTERING, SOME DATA GOT DELETED ON THE AIRWAY. AFTER XING MVA AT XA11Z, THE FMS #1 AND #2 PICKED UP A DIRECT OBH ROUTING WHICH PUT US SOME 11 MI N OF THE AIRWAY. PRIOR TO REACHING RESTR AREA R6405 WHICH WAS HOT, ATC ASKED US IF WE WERE ON A HDG ASSIGNED. WE LOOKED AT THE FMS'S AND INFORMED HIM WE WERE DIRECT OBH. HE SAID HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT AND GAVE US A 15 DEG R VECTOR FOR A FEW MINS TO AVOID R6405 AND THEN RECLRED US DIRECT TO OBH. THE FMS #3 WAS INDICATING THE PROPER J84 THE WHOLE TIME. OUR FIRST ERROR WAS DATA ENTRY AND CONFIRMATION DURING THE RERTE. THE SECOND ERROR WAS NOT PROPERLY MONITORING THE PROGRESS ON ALL FMS'S. THIS LATTER ERROR WAS MADE DURING A PERIOD IN WHICH WE HAD EXPERIENCED AN AIR DATA COMPUTER FAILURE AND WE WERE INVOLVED WITH CHKLIST ITEMS AND PHONE CALLS TO MAINT OPS AND DISPATCH TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE OPTIONS. AFTER THE CTLR ASSIGNED US THE HDG, WE XCHKED THE FMS #1, #2 AND #3 WITH FLT PLAN AND DISCOVERED OUR ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.