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Attributes | |
ACN | 408770 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gep |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : private pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 408770 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 410330 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into msp on the gopher arrival. Cleared to cross ollee intersection at 9000 ft. Later clearance was changed to ollee at 11000 ft. Ollee is 25 mi north of gep VOR. For some reason, both the copilot and I looked at the approach chart and set in msp VOR frequency, which was on the same radial but 15 mi south of gep. When at 13000 ft, center said we were over ollee and missed our crossing restr. Actually they asked our altitude and said we were at ollee. Since we had msp VOR frequency set in instead of gep VOR, we thought we had plenty of time to make the crossing restr. Other factors: even though I have been to msp often, I have never flown this arrival before. I checked the crossing restr mileage very carefully, but just misread the chart. Using msp VOR frequency for the procedure and leaving gep VOR frequency off the chart, would prevent any reoccurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR DC9 FLC MISDIAL NAVAID FREQ AND CONSEQUENTLY DO NOT COMPLY WITH ATC STAR ALT XING RESTR.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO MSP ON THE GOPHER ARR. CLRED TO CROSS OLLEE INTXN AT 9000 FT. LATER CLRNC WAS CHANGED TO OLLEE AT 11000 FT. OLLEE IS 25 MI N OF GEP VOR. FOR SOME REASON, BOTH THE COPLT AND I LOOKED AT THE APCH CHART AND SET IN MSP VOR FREQ, WHICH WAS ON THE SAME RADIAL BUT 15 MI S OF GEP. WHEN AT 13000 FT, CTR SAID WE WERE OVER OLLEE AND MISSED OUR XING RESTR. ACTUALLY THEY ASKED OUR ALT AND SAID WE WERE AT OLLEE. SINCE WE HAD MSP VOR FREQ SET IN INSTEAD OF GEP VOR, WE THOUGHT WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE THE XING RESTR. OTHER FACTORS: EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN TO MSP OFTEN, I HAVE NEVER FLOWN THIS ARR BEFORE. I CHKED THE XING RESTR MILEAGE VERY CAREFULLY, BUT JUST MISREAD THE CHART. USING MSP VOR FREQ FOR THE PROC AND LEAVING GEP VOR FREQ OFF THE CHART, WOULD PREVENT ANY REOCCURRENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.