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Attributes | |
ACN | 416570 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msy |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 416570 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
PF made fast (250 KIAS) visual approach (backed up with localizer runway 19) and waited too long to slow and configure. Approach control didn't pass us on to tower (we think) and while the PNF and I became preoccupied with monitoring the PF's nonstandard (for our company) approach, we forgot to ensure we had long clearance (which we didn't). We realized it after clearing the runway noticing approach control's frequency was still in the radio prior to switching to ground control. PF was first officer, PNF was captain. I was hesitant to say anything since the PNF was the captain and he hadn't directed earlier slowing/confign or go around. We landed 20 KIAS fast at the end of the landing zone. Corrective action: 1) slow and configure earlier in approach. 2) don't forget to get landing clearance. We turn on the taxi lights once received and failed to check that switch at 500 ft, which is the captain's and my technique. 3) should have avoided situation first but failing that, we should have gone around/executed missed approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR TURBOJET ACFT LANDS WITHOUT CLRNC AT MSY.
Narrative: PF MADE FAST (250 KIAS) VISUAL APCH (BACKED UP WITH LOC RWY 19) AND WAITED TOO LONG TO SLOW AND CONFIGURE. APCH CTL DIDN'T PASS US ON TO TWR (WE THINK) AND WHILE THE PNF AND I BECAME PREOCCUPIED WITH MONITORING THE PF'S NONSTANDARD (FOR OUR COMPANY) APCH, WE FORGOT TO ENSURE WE HAD LONG CLRNC (WHICH WE DIDN'T). WE REALIZED IT AFTER CLRING THE RWY NOTICING APCH CTL'S FREQ WAS STILL IN THE RADIO PRIOR TO SWITCHING TO GND CTL. PF WAS FO, PNF WAS CAPT. I WAS HESITANT TO SAY ANYTHING SINCE THE PNF WAS THE CAPT AND HE HADN'T DIRECTED EARLIER SLOWING/CONFIGN OR GAR. WE LANDED 20 KIAS FAST AT THE END OF THE LNDG ZONE. CORRECTIVE ACTION: 1) SLOW AND CONFIGURE EARLIER IN APCH. 2) DON'T FORGET TO GET LNDG CLRNC. WE TURN ON THE TAXI LIGHTS ONCE RECEIVED AND FAILED TO CHK THAT SWITCH AT 500 FT, WHICH IS THE CAPT'S AND MY TECHNIQUE. 3) SHOULD HAVE AVOIDED SIT FIRST BUT FAILING THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE GONE AROUND/EXECUTED MISSED APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.