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Attributes | |
ACN | 417280 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : oal |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 417280 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
When I checked to verify that the SID was still the sfo 8 departure to lin, I did not notice the changed route between lin and ilc. At sonny when the controller questioned our turn towards oal and we caught the changed routing. No separation was lost and the controller said that there was no problem. Pre departure clearance's can be a real gotcha when a change to the routing is buried between the SID and the then as filed. I recommend that whenever the pre departure clearance changes the filed route of flight, it ought to state something to the effect of 'change route to' or 'this is an amended route.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB CREW DID NOT CAREFULLY CHK PDC ROUTING AND MISSED A SEGMENT THAT HAD BEEN AMENDED ON AN SFO 8 SID.
Narrative: WHEN I CHKED TO VERIFY THAT THE SID WAS STILL THE SFO 8 DEP TO LIN, I DID NOT NOTICE THE CHANGED RTE BTWN LIN AND ILC. AT SONNY WHEN THE CTLR QUESTIONED OUR TURN TOWARDS OAL AND WE CAUGHT THE CHANGED ROUTING. NO SEPARATION WAS LOST AND THE CTLR SAID THAT THERE WAS NO PROB. PDC'S CAN BE A REAL GOTCHA WHEN A CHANGE TO THE ROUTING IS BURIED BTWN THE SID AND THE THEN AS FILED. I RECOMMEND THAT WHENEVER THE PDC CHANGES THE FILED RTE OF FLT, IT OUGHT TO STATE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF 'CHANGE RTE TO' OR 'THIS IS AN AMENDED RTE.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.