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Attributes | |
ACN | 421882 |
Time | |
Date | 199811 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eisn |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 36000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : eggx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 40 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 421882 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Shut down of #3 engine due to loss of oil. Was unable to maintain FL360, so declared emergency, turned off nat track and paralleled it with a 30 NM offset. Then descended to FL250 in hopes of starting the APU. The #2 CSD had been previously disconnected, so starting the APU was desirable, to regain a 2 generator operation. As the APU would not start initially, we stepped down to lower altitudes to warmer outside air temperatures. At 10000 ft the APU started, then we climbed back up to FL200. Shanwick radio was advised of every altitude change. Keflavik and shannon were our diversion choices. Keflavik was 80 NM closer, however, the WX in shannon was much better, so we received a direct clearance to shannon. Approximately 1 hour 10 mins later, we arrived shannon with no further incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: crew was flying a DC10-40 with P&west jt-9D-20 engines eastbound from iad to inn. The crew was required to disconnect #2 CSD due to the CSD low oil pressure light illuminating. Later in the flight, the #3 engine oil filter bypass light illuminated. The abnormal checklist mandates an engine shutdown for this. This left the aircraft with only 1 operating generator, #1. The APU starting envelope limit is FL250. After descending to FL250, 2 APU start attempts were made unsuccessfully. The crew then continued descent to FL200. 2 more attempted starts were unsuccessful. Descent continued to 15000 ft where another 2 attempts were made. Only after a descent to 10000 ft, and after allowing the APU to warm up about 25 mins was a successful start accomplished. All in all, it took 7 tries before the start was successful. The crew allowed the APU to operate for about 15 mins before doing a 2 engine climb back to FL250. APU generator operation after the APU was started was normal. The pilot stated his company does not test the APU's to see if they will operate at their starting envelope limits.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10 CREW WAS REQUIRED TO SHUT DOWN #3 ENG DUE TO LOSS OF ENG OIL. THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCONNECTED #2 CSD. AN EMER WAS DECLARED AND A DSCNT AND DIVERSION WAS BEGUN. SINCE THEY WERE ON SINGLE GENERATOR OP, AN APU START WAS ATTEMPTED AT FL250. IT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL UNTIL A DSCNT TO 10000 FT WAS MADE.
Narrative: SHUT DOWN OF #3 ENG DUE TO LOSS OF OIL. WAS UNABLE TO MAINTAIN FL360, SO DECLARED EMER, TURNED OFF NAT TRACK AND PARALLELED IT WITH A 30 NM OFFSET. THEN DSNDED TO FL250 IN HOPES OF STARTING THE APU. THE #2 CSD HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCONNECTED, SO STARTING THE APU WAS DESIRABLE, TO REGAIN A 2 GENERATOR OP. AS THE APU WOULD NOT START INITIALLY, WE STEPPED DOWN TO LOWER ALTS TO WARMER OUTSIDE AIR TEMPS. AT 10000 FT THE APU STARTED, THEN WE CLBED BACK UP TO FL200. SHANWICK RADIO WAS ADVISED OF EVERY ALT CHANGE. KEFLAVIK AND SHANNON WERE OUR DIVERSION CHOICES. KEFLAVIK WAS 80 NM CLOSER, HOWEVER, THE WX IN SHANNON WAS MUCH BETTER, SO WE RECEIVED A DIRECT CLRNC TO SHANNON. APPROX 1 HR 10 MINS LATER, WE ARRIVED SHANNON WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CREW WAS FLYING A DC10-40 WITH P&W JT-9D-20 ENGS EBOUND FROM IAD TO INN. THE CREW WAS REQUIRED TO DISCONNECT #2 CSD DUE TO THE CSD LOW OIL PRESSURE LIGHT ILLUMINATING. LATER IN THE FLT, THE #3 ENG OIL FILTER BYPASS LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE ABNORMAL CHKLIST MANDATES AN ENG SHUTDOWN FOR THIS. THIS LEFT THE ACFT WITH ONLY 1 OPERATING GENERATOR, #1. THE APU STARTING ENVELOPE LIMIT IS FL250. AFTER DSNDING TO FL250, 2 APU START ATTEMPTS WERE MADE UNSUCCESSFULLY. THE CREW THEN CONTINUED DSCNT TO FL200. 2 MORE ATTEMPTED STARTS WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. DSCNT CONTINUED TO 15000 FT WHERE ANOTHER 2 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE. ONLY AFTER A DSCNT TO 10000 FT, AND AFTER ALLOWING THE APU TO WARM UP ABOUT 25 MINS WAS A SUCCESSFUL START ACCOMPLISHED. ALL IN ALL, IT TOOK 7 TRIES BEFORE THE START WAS SUCCESSFUL. THE CREW ALLOWED THE APU TO OPERATE FOR ABOUT 15 MINS BEFORE DOING A 2 ENG CLB BACK TO FL250. APU GENERATOR OP AFTER THE APU WAS STARTED WAS NORMAL. THE PLT STATED HIS COMPANY DOES NOT TEST THE APU'S TO SEE IF THEY WILL OPERATE AT THEIR STARTING ENVELOPE LIMITS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.