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Attributes | |
ACN | 422533 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mco |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Orion (P3) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 422533 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We (aircraft X) were level FL190 heading 290 assigned. Controller asked a PE3(aircraft Y) at FL200 if he had us in sight. The P3 said he had us visual. We were not asked and we did not have him visual. He was on TCASII. Jax cleared us to climb to FL230. After starting climb, we saw the P3 heading toward us and at the same time got an RA to descend. We complied and advised ATC of the RA. When clear of traffic we continued climb to FL230. Normally controllers want both aircraft to say they have visual contact before clearing aircraft through the same altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZJX CTLR EXCHANGES OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC WITH MIL P3, WHO RPTS A B727 IN SIGHT, BUT DOES NOT APPLY THE SAME CRITERIA WITH THE B727. CTLR CLBS THE B727. THE B727 INITIATES AN EVASIVE MANEUVER FROM THE P3 AS A RESULT FROM A TCASII RA. AFTER CLR OF THE P3, THE B727 CONTINUES CLB.
Narrative: WE (ACFT X) WERE LEVEL FL190 HDG 290 ASSIGNED. CTLR ASKED A PE3(ACFT Y) AT FL200 IF HE HAD US IN SIGHT. THE P3 SAID HE HAD US VISUAL. WE WERE NOT ASKED AND WE DID NOT HAVE HIM VISUAL. HE WAS ON TCASII. JAX CLRED US TO CLB TO FL230. AFTER STARTING CLB, WE SAW THE P3 HDG TOWARD US AND AT THE SAME TIME GOT AN RA TO DSND. WE COMPLIED AND ADVISED ATC OF THE RA. WHEN CLR OF TFC WE CONTINUED CLB TO FL230. NORMALLY CTLRS WANT BOTH ACFT TO SAY THEY HAVE VISUAL CONTACT BEFORE CLRING ACFT THROUGH THE SAME ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.