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A CL65 first officer report on flight crew work scheduling and sending 'brand new crewmen' out on layover night operation. The crew had taxied the aircraft without clearance thinking that the tower was still closed at tri, tn.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 423180 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199812 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tri |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mke |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 423180 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After a crew on duty rest period of 5 hours, of which only 3 hours of sleep were attained, the following happened: our departure time was AB05 from tri to atl. We radioed the airplane for departure and taxied out to runway 23. I called for a clearance on approach frequency and was informed that the tri tower was open. I then called tower and asked for a taxi clearance, although we already had taxied. We then received a clearance from tri tower. I think if the crew had been more rested and therefore more alert, this occurrence may not have happened. Also I believe if the crew had been at a higher experience level this could have helped in the overall picture. It is not very smart to send a brand new crewman out on a crew on duty overnight. It is not very smart for an airline to even conduct crew on duty overnights. I believe they are a safety hazard of the highest order.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 FO RPT ON FLC WORK SCHEDULING AND SENDING 'BRAND NEW CREWMEN' OUT ON LAYOVER NIGHT OP. THE CREW HAD TAXIED THE ACFT WITHOUT CLRNC THINKING THAT THE TWR WAS STILL CLOSED AT TRI, TN.
Narrative: AFTER A CREW ON DUTY REST PERIOD OF 5 HRS, OF WHICH ONLY 3 HRS OF SLEEP WERE ATTAINED, THE FOLLOWING HAPPENED: OUR DEP TIME WAS AB05 FROM TRI TO ATL. WE RADIOED THE AIRPLANE FOR DEP AND TAXIED OUT TO RWY 23. I CALLED FOR A CLRNC ON APCH FREQ AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE TRI TWR WAS OPEN. I THEN CALLED TWR AND ASKED FOR A TAXI CLRNC, ALTHOUGH WE ALREADY HAD TAXIED. WE THEN RECEIVED A CLRNC FROM TRI TWR. I THINK IF THE CREW HAD BEEN MORE RESTED AND THEREFORE MORE ALERT, THIS OCCURRENCE MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED. ALSO I BELIEVE IF THE CREW HAD BEEN AT A HIGHER EXPERIENCE LEVEL THIS COULD HAVE HELPED IN THE OVERALL PICTURE. IT IS NOT VERY SMART TO SEND A BRAND NEW CREWMAN OUT ON A CREW ON DUTY OVERNIGHT. IT IS NOT VERY SMART FOR AN AIRLINE TO EVEN CONDUCT CREW ON DUTY OVERNIGHTS. I BELIEVE THEY ARE A SAFETY HAZARD OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.