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Attributes | |
ACN | 426647 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : orh |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 426647 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were given a taxi clearance to taxi to runway 29 (no hold short instructions). However, at orh airport, worcester, ma, you could only get to runway 29 via taxiway B, which also crosses runway 29. I realized in the aim, that you should not cross an active runway even if you have been given instruction to taxi to that runway, such as on an intersecting taxiway. Most of the controllers at orh tower give nonstandard instructions, such as taxi to runway 29 (with no holding restr). I have on many occasions taxied across to runway 29 without holding, and without raising any attention from the controllers. Today, however, this one controller made a big issue over this. She gave us an attitude and mentioned we made a violation. I mentioned to her that all the controllers there usually tell us the same clearance with no intention of us holding short unless they specifically tell us to hold short of runway 29 at taxiway B. I also wanted to mention that a lot of our flcs have been having problems with controllers at this one airport in the past couple of months, and there's been some tension there since a controller there almost caused a midair collision between 2 of our company aircraft. I think the major reason for this mishap was controller nonstandard phraseology as well as flight operational error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE02 (B190) FLC RECEIVE AND INTERP TAXI CLRNC TO DEPART RWY AS CLRNC TO CROSS RWY. TWR LCL CTLR CHALLENGES FLC'S RWY XING. PLT STATES THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CHALLENGED BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW THE AIM STATES OTHERWISE.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A TAXI CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 29 (NO HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS). HOWEVER, AT ORH ARPT, WORCESTER, MA, YOU COULD ONLY GET TO RWY 29 VIA TXWY B, WHICH ALSO CROSSES RWY 29. I REALIZED IN THE AIM, THAT YOU SHOULD NOT CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY EVEN IF YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN INSTRUCTION TO TAXI TO THAT RWY, SUCH AS ON AN INTERSECTING TXWY. MOST OF THE CTLRS AT ORH TWR GIVE NONSTANDARD INSTRUCTIONS, SUCH AS TAXI TO RWY 29 (WITH NO HOLDING RESTR). I HAVE ON MANY OCCASIONS TAXIED ACROSS TO RWY 29 WITHOUT HOLDING, AND WITHOUT RAISING ANY ATTN FROM THE CTLRS. TODAY, HOWEVER, THIS ONE CTLR MADE A BIG ISSUE OVER THIS. SHE GAVE US AN ATTITUDE AND MENTIONED WE MADE A VIOLATION. I MENTIONED TO HER THAT ALL THE CTLRS THERE USUALLY TELL US THE SAME CLRNC WITH NO INTENTION OF US HOLDING SHORT UNLESS THEY SPECIFICALLY TELL US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 29 AT TXWY B. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT A LOT OF OUR FLCS HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBS WITH CTLRS AT THIS ONE ARPT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME TENSION THERE SINCE A CTLR THERE ALMOST CAUSED A MIDAIR COLLISION BTWN 2 OF OUR COMPANY ACFT. I THINK THE MAJOR REASON FOR THIS MISHAP WAS CTLR NONSTANDARD PHRASEOLOGY AS WELL AS FLT OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.