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Captain of a B757 advised approach controller that he was taking another heading to avoid WX rather than the vector heading given by the controller. The controller first said that the pilot was on his own and then provided vectors to avoid WX and to intercept the ILS localizer.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 427600 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199901 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 920 |
| ASRS Report | 427600 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were painting a storm (level 2) south of the ATC base turn leg we were advised to expect. We were on downwind (headed south toward the storm) for runway 35L at dfw. Approach control vectored us too far south to miss the storm on a square base of 085 degrees, unless we continued the left turn to about 060 degrees. We were issued a heading of 110 degrees, right through the middle of level 2 WX. We requested 060 degrees but were denied this due to traffic. We turned right and advised ATC that we were taking a heading of 220 degrees to circumnav to the west of the storm. We were advised that we were 'on our own' and to maintain 4000 ft MSL. We were then vectored to a base turn south of the storm for an uneventful landing. It appears that, when a controller's hair is on fire, moving traffic takes precedence over safety issues.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A B757 ADVISED APCH CTLR THAT HE WAS TAKING ANOTHER HDG TO AVOID WX RATHER THAN THE VECTOR HDG GIVEN BY THE CTLR. THE CTLR FIRST SAID THAT THE PLT WAS ON HIS OWN AND THEN PROVIDED VECTORS TO AVOID WX AND TO INTERCEPT THE ILS LOC.
Narrative: WE WERE PAINTING A STORM (LEVEL 2) S OF THE ATC BASE TURN LEG WE WERE ADVISED TO EXPECT. WE WERE ON DOWNWIND (HEADED S TOWARD THE STORM) FOR RWY 35L AT DFW. APCH CTL VECTORED US TOO FAR S TO MISS THE STORM ON A SQUARE BASE OF 085 DEGS, UNLESS WE CONTINUED THE L TURN TO ABOUT 060 DEGS. WE WERE ISSUED A HDG OF 110 DEGS, RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF LEVEL 2 WX. WE REQUESTED 060 DEGS BUT WERE DENIED THIS DUE TO TFC. WE TURNED R AND ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE TAKING A HDG OF 220 DEGS TO CIRCUMNAV TO THE W OF THE STORM. WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE WERE 'ON OUR OWN' AND TO MAINTAIN 4000 FT MSL. WE WERE THEN VECTORED TO A BASE TURN S OF THE STORM FOR AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. IT APPEARS THAT, WHEN A CTLR'S HAIR IS ON FIRE, MOVING TFC TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER SAFETY ISSUES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.