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Attributes | |
ACN | 429237 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dxo.vor |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11600 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Route In Use | arrival star : cetus.cetus 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4200 |
ASRS Report | 429237 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On descent on cetus arrival to dtw (we had been cruising at FL190), we were cleared to cross cetus at 12000 ft. Right after we started down, a flight attendant came into the cockpit and he engaged us in a conversation about his commuting flight and requested that we get a gate number for him. This distraction both the first officer and myself so that we missed setting our altimeters to 30.44. (We were advised of a saab 340 at 11000 ft.) fortunately the first officer leveled off at 12250 ft and took almost a min to slowly get down to 12100 ft before we were cleared lower. As soon as we were cleared lower and started down, we got an RA to climb. We leveled off momentarily and the RA eased. Right about then, I did a descent check and that's when we realized that we had forgotten to reset the altimeters. I feel really stupid because I've read about incidents like this in ASRS reports, and I should have known better.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DC9 FORGOT TO RESET ALTIMETERS DURING DSCNT RESULTING IN A TCASII RA AND OVERSHOOTING AN ARR STAR XING FIX.
Narrative: ON DSCNT ON CETUS ARR TO DTW (WE HAD BEEN CRUISING AT FL190), WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS CETUS AT 12000 FT. RIGHT AFTER WE STARTED DOWN, A FLT ATTENDANT CAME INTO THE COCKPIT AND HE ENGAGED US IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS COMMUTING FLT AND REQUESTED THAT WE GET A GATE NUMBER FOR HIM. THIS DISTR BOTH THE FO AND MYSELF SO THAT WE MISSED SETTING OUR ALTIMETERS TO 30.44. (WE WERE ADVISED OF A SAAB 340 AT 11000 FT.) FORTUNATELY THE FO LEVELED OFF AT 12250 FT AND TOOK ALMOST A MIN TO SLOWLY GET DOWN TO 12100 FT BEFORE WE WERE CLRED LOWER. AS SOON AS WE WERE CLRED LOWER AND STARTED DOWN, WE GOT AN RA TO CLB. WE LEVELED OFF MOMENTARILY AND THE RA EASED. RIGHT ABOUT THEN, I DID A DSCNT CHK AND THAT'S WHEN WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD FORGOTTEN TO RESET THE ALTIMETERS. I FEEL REALLY STUPID BECAUSE I'VE READ ABOUT INCIDENTS LIKE THIS IN ASRS RPTS, AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.