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Attributes | |
ACN | 432543 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 5100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence Windshear |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 432543 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : gpws |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
Airspace Structure | class b : las.b |
Narrative:
Initially on vectors for runway 19 with winds 190-200 degrees, 18-23 KTS gusting to 34 KTS. Next approach controller vectored us east and asked if we wanted runway 25 -- said no. Put on wide downwind for runway 19 with subsequent dscnts to 6000 ft and then 5100 ft MSL. Turned for base. At 5100 ft MSL, level flight, 170 KIAS, and flaps 15 degrees, got GPWS warnings. Disconnected autoplt, firewalled engines, and began climb per SOP. Radio altimeter indicated 1200 ft AGL and decreasing. After 300-500 ft climb, warning stopped. Told ATC about our warning. Their reply was 'yeah, that happens there sometimes,' and that we were at the MVA. Subsequent transmission by another aircraft, we heard their GPWS going off. Why are we that low? Our engines may have been overboosted because of this practice. Don't even get me started about the lack of electronic guidance (other than PAPI) and lighting on runway 19.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW RESPONDS TO GPWS WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR APCH AT LAS.
Narrative: INITIALLY ON VECTORS FOR RWY 19 WITH WINDS 190-200 DEGS, 18-23 KTS GUSTING TO 34 KTS. NEXT APCH CTLR VECTORED US E AND ASKED IF WE WANTED RWY 25 -- SAID NO. PUT ON WIDE DOWNWIND FOR RWY 19 WITH SUBSEQUENT DSCNTS TO 6000 FT AND THEN 5100 FT MSL. TURNED FOR BASE. AT 5100 FT MSL, LEVEL FLT, 170 KIAS, AND FLAPS 15 DEGS, GOT GPWS WARNINGS. DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT, FIREWALLED ENGS, AND BEGAN CLB PER SOP. RADIO ALTIMETER INDICATED 1200 FT AGL AND DECREASING. AFTER 300-500 FT CLB, WARNING STOPPED. TOLD ATC ABOUT OUR WARNING. THEIR REPLY WAS 'YEAH, THAT HAPPENS THERE SOMETIMES,' AND THAT WE WERE AT THE MVA. SUBSEQUENT XMISSION BY ANOTHER ACFT, WE HEARD THEIR GPWS GOING OFF. WHY ARE WE THAT LOW? OUR ENGS MAY HAVE BEEN OVERBOOSTED BECAUSE OF THIS PRACTICE. DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ABOUT THE LACK OF ELECTRONIC GUIDANCE (OTHER THAN PAPI) AND LIGHTING ON RWY 19.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.