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Attributes | |
ACN | 432762 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25500 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 432762 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 432854 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Climbing out of pit on mar/xa/99 bound for ord, after a couple of step-climbs we were given a climb to FL260. Out of FL255, I noticed on TCASII 12 O'clock traffic and 30 mi at FL260. As I looked to the captain, ATC came over the air and asked us to confirm level at FL250. The captain responded 'negative, out of FL255 for FL260.' the controller returned, 'descend now FL250.' after executing an immediate descent to FL250, the conflicting traffic flew overhead at FL260. The captain asked the controller if he was going to pull the tapes to confirm the communication between us, and the controller replied it wasn't necessary -- that the proximity wasn't that close. The captain, so and I queried each other and considered the altitude, FL260, that was set in our altitude selector window to be correct and accurate. However, in this job place, with so many altitudes that are selected each flight, each day, each pairing, we were not 100% sure of ours. The captain contacted the ATC supervisor that day from ord and it was determined from the tapes that the controller did assign FL260.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC IN A 3 ENG TURBOJET WERE CLRED TO FL260 IN ERROR BY THE ARTCC CTLR. THE CTLR HAD THEM DSND BEFORE A SERIOUS CONFLICT OCCURRED.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF PIT ON MAR/XA/99 BOUND FOR ORD, AFTER A COUPLE OF STEP-CLBS WE WERE GIVEN A CLB TO FL260. OUT OF FL255, I NOTICED ON TCASII 12 O'CLOCK TFC AND 30 MI AT FL260. AS I LOOKED TO THE CAPT, ATC CAME OVER THE AIR AND ASKED US TO CONFIRM LEVEL AT FL250. THE CAPT RESPONDED 'NEGATIVE, OUT OF FL255 FOR FL260.' THE CTLR RETURNED, 'DSND NOW FL250.' AFTER EXECUTING AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT TO FL250, THE CONFLICTING TFC FLEW OVERHEAD AT FL260. THE CAPT ASKED THE CTLR IF HE WAS GOING TO PULL THE TAPES TO CONFIRM THE COM BTWN US, AND THE CTLR REPLIED IT WASN'T NECESSARY -- THAT THE PROX WASN'T THAT CLOSE. THE CAPT, SO AND I QUERIED EACH OTHER AND CONSIDERED THE ALT, FL260, THAT WAS SET IN OUR ALT SELECTOR WINDOW TO BE CORRECT AND ACCURATE. HOWEVER, IN THIS JOB PLACE, WITH SO MANY ALTS THAT ARE SELECTED EACH FLT, EACH DAY, EACH PAIRING, WE WERE NOT 100% SURE OF OURS. THE CAPT CONTACTED THE ATC SUPVR THAT DAY FROM ORD AND IT WAS DETERMINED FROM THE TAPES THAT THE CTLR DID ASSIGN FL260.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.