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Attributes | |
ACN | 438171 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pns.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p31.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 17 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p31.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Mentor (T-34) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 5700 |
ASRS Report | 438171 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for the ILS runway 17 approach and had requested deviations for WX. Deviations were approved and we were told to advise when we could turn toward the localizer, and that the airport was to our south. After clearing WX to our left (south) we advised we were able to turn inbound. The controller assigned a heading of 080 degrees, vectors to the localizer. During the turn our TCASII gave an aural warning of 'traffic' we observed traffic displayed on TCASII 2 mi to our right and 200 ft below. We did not appear to be converging. Controller issued further turn to 030 degrees and asked us to tighten the turn. The controller advised of T34 traffic passing behind, and said he had needed a tighter turn. During this maneuver we were at the steepest bank allowed by our company standards for normal operations. We were not made aware of any abnormal situation that would require us to exceed this limitation in the interest of safety, until after the conflicting traffic was behind us. I believe that use of different frequencys (UHF/VHF) by the same controller contributed to this event. We were able to hear xmissions to the T34 but no replies, and the controller seemed rushed and distracted in his instructions to us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB120 FLC RECEIVES TCASII TA WHILE BEING VECTORED TO INTERCEPT LOC AT PNS.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 17 APCH AND HAD REQUESTED DEVS FOR WX. DEVS WERE APPROVED AND WE WERE TOLD TO ADVISE WHEN WE COULD TURN TOWARD THE LOC, AND THAT THE ARPT WAS TO OUR S. AFTER CLRING WX TO OUR L (S) WE ADVISED WE WERE ABLE TO TURN INBOUND. THE CTLR ASSIGNED A HDG OF 080 DEGS, VECTORS TO THE LOC. DURING THE TURN OUR TCASII GAVE AN AURAL WARNING OF 'TFC' WE OBSERVED TFC DISPLAYED ON TCASII 2 MI TO OUR R AND 200 FT BELOW. WE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE CONVERGING. CTLR ISSUED FURTHER TURN TO 030 DEGS AND ASKED US TO TIGHTEN THE TURN. THE CTLR ADVISED OF T34 TFC PASSING BEHIND, AND SAID HE HAD NEEDED A TIGHTER TURN. DURING THIS MANEUVER WE WERE AT THE STEEPEST BANK ALLOWED BY OUR COMPANY STANDARDS FOR NORMAL OPS. WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE OF ANY ABNORMAL SIT THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO EXCEED THIS LIMITATION IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, UNTIL AFTER THE CONFLICTING TFC WAS BEHIND US. I BELIEVE THAT USE OF DIFFERENT FREQS (UHF/VHF) BY THE SAME CTLR CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT. WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR XMISSIONS TO THE T34 BUT NO REPLIES, AND THE CTLR SEEMED RUSHED AND DISTRACTED IN HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.