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Attributes | |
ACN | 440654 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mrb.vortac |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18500 msl bound upper : 19000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 440654 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 440991 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Flight operated scheduled service from bos-iad. A B727-200 was given instructions from ZNY at approximately XA00 to descend and cross robrt intersection at 10000 ft and 250 KIAS. The aircraft began its descent to make the crossing restr. While descending through FL185, the ZNY controller advised crew to stop descent at FL190. We advised the ZNY controller that we were currently descending through FL185. The controller advised the crew to climb back to FL190, at which time the descent trend (approximately 2500 FPM) was reversed, and a climb started to FL190. This reversal from descent to climb activated the TCASII 'traffic alert' followed very quickly by an RA requesting a descent between 1500-2000 FPM. The aircraft immediately responded to the TCASII descent alert and advised ZNY of our actions. The 'bogie' aircraft passed within 5 mi at an altitude of 600 ft above our flight, according to the TCASII display. The captain asked the controller for his name, after which the initials were given followed by a phone number. Flight continued to its destination without incident or injury to passenger. I believe an operational error by ZNY nearly resulted in an near midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 WAS GIVEN A DSCNT THEN CLB DURING WHICH THEY RECEIVED A TCASII RA ON DSCNT INTO IAD.
Narrative: FLT OPERATED SCHEDULED SVC FROM BOS-IAD. A B727-200 WAS GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS FROM ZNY AT APPROX XA00 TO DSND AND CROSS ROBRT INTXN AT 10000 FT AND 250 KIAS. THE ACFT BEGAN ITS DSCNT TO MAKE THE XING RESTR. WHILE DSNDING THROUGH FL185, THE ZNY CTLR ADVISED CREW TO STOP DSCNT AT FL190. WE ADVISED THE ZNY CTLR THAT WE WERE CURRENTLY DSNDING THROUGH FL185. THE CTLR ADVISED THE CREW TO CLB BACK TO FL190, AT WHICH TIME THE DSCNT TREND (APPROX 2500 FPM) WAS REVERSED, AND A CLB STARTED TO FL190. THIS REVERSAL FROM DSCNT TO CLB ACTIVATED THE TCASII 'TFC ALERT' FOLLOWED VERY QUICKLY BY AN RA REQUESTING A DSCNT BTWN 1500-2000 FPM. THE ACFT IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED TO THE TCASII DSCNT ALERT AND ADVISED ZNY OF OUR ACTIONS. THE 'BOGIE' ACFT PASSED WITHIN 5 MI AT AN ALT OF 600 FT ABOVE OUR FLT, ACCORDING TO THE TCASII DISPLAY. THE CAPT ASKED THE CTLR FOR HIS NAME, AFTER WHICH THE INITIALS WERE GIVEN FOLLOWED BY A PHONE NUMBER. FLT CONTINUED TO ITS DEST WITHOUT INCIDENT OR INJURY TO PAX. I BELIEVE AN OPERROR BY ZNY NEARLY RESULTED IN AN NMAC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.