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Attributes | |
ACN | 440901 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : iad.ils |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4700 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 19r other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 440901 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : returned to original clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
First officer hand-flying. Frequency change. I checked in 3 times to iad approach, no response. Finally ATC states 'roger air carrier X, cleared to maintain 4000 ft.' I read back and verified with first officer 4000 ft as we descended out of 5000 ft ATC stated 'negative 4000 ft, maintain 5000 ft air carrier X.' we had descended to 4700 ft indicated before climbing back up to 5000 ft. Rest of flight uneventful. The problem appears that ATC changed his mind very quickly even though we had read back the clearance and followed said clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW HAD CTLR CHANGE ALT CLRNC.
Narrative: FO HAND-FLYING. FREQ CHANGE. I CHKED IN 3 TIMES TO IAD APCH, NO RESPONSE. FINALLY ATC STATES 'ROGER ACR X, CLRED TO MAINTAIN 4000 FT.' I READ BACK AND VERIFIED WITH FO 4000 FT AS WE DSNDED OUT OF 5000 FT ATC STATED 'NEGATIVE 4000 FT, MAINTAIN 5000 FT ACR X.' WE HAD DSNDED TO 4700 FT INDICATED BEFORE CLBING BACK UP TO 5000 FT. REST OF FLT UNEVENTFUL. THE PROB APPEARS THAT ATC CHANGED HIS MIND VERY QUICKLY EVEN THOUGH WE HAD READ BACK THE CLRNC AND FOLLOWED SAID CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.