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Attributes | |
ACN | 441108 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 35r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 35l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 441108 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Arriving from the east, cleared for the visual to the east (runway 35R) at sdf. There was a B727 from the west cleared for the visual to west runway 35L. PF turned in toward the runway, but was a little too high and fast. As we arched around base to final. I asked several times if he had the east runway in sight. Yes to all responses. As it became clear he was going for the left runway, I still had a visual on the B727 and called for a hard right turn to final. Captain then saw the east runway, 40 degrees bank, still 200 KTS. We lost sight of B727 and came within 1000 ft of west runway at 1000 ft AGL. I told captain to roll out and check for the B727 on his side. After his 'visual' call, it was then decided to go around since we were in no position to land (200 KTS, flaps 15 degrees, 1500 FPM descending). As I knew the B727 was 1000 ft lower than us on final, I felt there was no midair potential, but nonetheless, even being fairly assertive on some calls, when it comes to parallel approachs, there is no room for overshooting approachs! Moral: when cleared for the visual, especially at night, try and make a turn at the marker so as to be on airspeed, altitude and correct localizer (runway)!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CAPT OVERSHOT ASSIGNED RWY.
Narrative: ARRIVING FROM THE E, CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO THE E (RWY 35R) AT SDF. THERE WAS A B727 FROM THE W CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO W RWY 35L. PF TURNED IN TOWARD THE RWY, BUT WAS A LITTLE TOO HIGH AND FAST. AS WE ARCHED AROUND BASE TO FINAL. I ASKED SEVERAL TIMES IF HE HAD THE E RWY IN SIGHT. YES TO ALL RESPONSES. AS IT BECAME CLR HE WAS GOING FOR THE L RWY, I STILL HAD A VISUAL ON THE B727 AND CALLED FOR A HARD R TURN TO FINAL. CAPT THEN SAW THE E RWY, 40 DEGS BANK, STILL 200 KTS. WE LOST SIGHT OF B727 AND CAME WITHIN 1000 FT OF W RWY AT 1000 FT AGL. I TOLD CAPT TO ROLL OUT AND CHK FOR THE B727 ON HIS SIDE. AFTER HIS 'VISUAL' CALL, IT WAS THEN DECIDED TO GO AROUND SINCE WE WERE IN NO POS TO LAND (200 KTS, FLAPS 15 DEGS, 1500 FPM DSNDING). AS I KNEW THE B727 WAS 1000 FT LOWER THAN US ON FINAL, I FELT THERE WAS NO MIDAIR POTENTIAL, BUT NONETHELESS, EVEN BEING FAIRLY ASSERTIVE ON SOME CALLS, WHEN IT COMES TO PARALLEL APCHS, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR OVERSHOOTING APCHS! MORAL: WHEN CLRED FOR THE VISUAL, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, TRY AND MAKE A TURN AT THE MARKER SO AS TO BE ON AIRSPD, ALT AND CORRECT LOC (RWY)!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.