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Attributes | |
ACN | 447530 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lfff.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lfff.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : lgl 7x |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 447530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : 927 other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : became reoriented none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were assigned ory runway 8 lgl 7X departure. Due to confusion between conflicting LNAV and raw data, we turned before 6.5 DME. When we took the runway, a map shift was noted. We therefore used raw data. We thought the map shift would correct itself when the unit updated once airborne. At 2.5 DME, the first officer began a turn to the right to intercept the 069 degree radial from the ol VOR. A flag appeared on the VOR about that time. We later determined it was for the clm VOR later on the departure. Believing we had both a bad map depiction and a bad VOR, we began a turn further right to intercept the clm 249 degree radial outbound. The turn was early. We determined that the clm VOR was out and asked for a vector and reported the bad VOR. We had unreliable raw data and a map shirt. It was hard to know what to believe. We asked ATC for vectors and they gave them till the map shift was updated and we continued with no further problems on the departure. ATC did note the early turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 EARLY TURN ON DEP SID FROM ORY.
Narrative: WE WERE ASSIGNED ORY RWY 8 LGL 7X DEP. DUE TO CONFUSION BTWN CONFLICTING LNAV AND RAW DATA, WE TURNED BEFORE 6.5 DME. WHEN WE TOOK THE RWY, A MAP SHIFT WAS NOTED. WE THEREFORE USED RAW DATA. WE THOUGHT THE MAP SHIFT WOULD CORRECT ITSELF WHEN THE UNIT UPDATED ONCE AIRBORNE. AT 2.5 DME, THE FO BEGAN A TURN TO THE R TO INTERCEPT THE 069 DEG RADIAL FROM THE OL VOR. A FLAG APPEARED ON THE VOR ABOUT THAT TIME. WE LATER DETERMINED IT WAS FOR THE CLM VOR LATER ON THE DEP. BELIEVING WE HAD BOTH A BAD MAP DEPICTION AND A BAD VOR, WE BEGAN A TURN FURTHER R TO INTERCEPT THE CLM 249 DEG RADIAL OUTBOUND. THE TURN WAS EARLY. WE DETERMINED THAT THE CLM VOR WAS OUT AND ASKED FOR A VECTOR AND RPTED THE BAD VOR. WE HAD UNRELIABLE RAW DATA AND A MAP SHIRT. IT WAS HARD TO KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE. WE ASKED ATC FOR VECTORS AND THEY GAVE THEM TILL THE MAP SHIFT WAS UPDATED AND WE CONTINUED WITH NO FURTHER PROBS ON THE DEP. ATC DID NOTE THE EARLY TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.