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Attributes | |
ACN | 448338 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : haxim |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 290 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 448338 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We had been cleared direct maxim from ZMA. Thunderstorms were numerous in the area. We requested a deviation to the right or north of course. ZMA advised they would rather have a deviation to the south. We accepted, but stated that it would be a much larger deviation. They responded no problem. The deviation took us well off course, and at one point, ZMA asked how much farther we would be going. We informed them it would be at least 10 mi, but we were working our way around a large overhang, but were starting to head back towards maxim. Mins later, ZMA informed us we had entered cuban airspace without clearance. We were told that she would have to work it out with havana center and then handed us over to them. Havana center was happy to have us and cleared us direct when able.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ENTERS CUBAN AIRSPACE WHILE DEVIATING AROUND WX.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN CLRED DIRECT MAXIM FROM ZMA. TSTMS WERE NUMEROUS IN THE AREA. WE REQUESTED A DEV TO THE R OR N OF COURSE. ZMA ADVISED THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE A DEV TO THE S. WE ACCEPTED, BUT STATED THAT IT WOULD BE A MUCH LARGER DEV. THEY RESPONDED NO PROB. THE DEV TOOK US WELL OFF COURSE, AND AT ONE POINT, ZMA ASKED HOW MUCH FARTHER WE WOULD BE GOING. WE INFORMED THEM IT WOULD BE AT LEAST 10 MI, BUT WE WERE WORKING OUR WAY AROUND A LARGE OVERHANG, BUT WERE STARTING TO HEAD BACK TOWARDS MAXIM. MINS LATER, ZMA INFORMED US WE HAD ENTERED CUBAN AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC. WE WERE TOLD THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO WORK IT OUT WITH HAVANA CTR AND THEN HANDED US OVER TO THEM. HAVANA CTR WAS HAPPY TO HAVE US AND CLRED US DIRECT WHEN ABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.