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Attributes | |
ACN | 450071 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : l12.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 450071 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On training flight with a foreign student. While on the first departure from runway 26 just prior to turning crosswind, the second aircraft in question came into view off the r-hand side of our plane going the opposite direction. Apparently, what in my estimation was a very close, tight downwind for runway 26. We had to snap left to lessen the closure rate. The cause, in my opinion, was a lack of correct radio usage together with a non compliant traffic pattern in accordance with the aim and applicable FARS. As it turned out, the other aircraft was plted by a piper cherokee pilot based here at redlands.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C152 TRAINING FLT HAS AN NMAC WITH A PA28 ARRIVING UNANNOUNCED NEAR THE XWIND LEG AT L12, CA.
Narrative: ON TRAINING FLT WITH A FOREIGN STUDENT. WHILE ON THE FIRST DEP FROM RWY 26 JUST PRIOR TO TURNING XWIND, THE SECOND ACFT IN QUESTION CAME INTO VIEW OFF THE R-HAND SIDE OF OUR PLANE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. APPARENTLY, WHAT IN MY ESTIMATION WAS A VERY CLOSE, TIGHT DOWNWIND FOR RWY 26. WE HAD TO SNAP L TO LESSEN THE CLOSURE RATE. THE CAUSE, IN MY OPINION, WAS A LACK OF CORRECT RADIO USAGE TOGETHER WITH A NON COMPLIANT TFC PATTERN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AIM AND APPLICABLE FARS. AS IT TURNED OUT, THE OTHER ACFT WAS PLTED BY A PIPER CHEROKEE PLT BASED HERE AT REDLANDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.