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Attributes | |
ACN | 450458 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lou.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 450458 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The copilot was flying and I was PNF. We were in cruise at FL200 33 mi southwest of nabb, when I heard ZID, 'descend and cross sargo at 11000 ft' so I read back descend and cross sargo at 11000 ft, and we started down. Passing FL180, ZID asked what our altitude was, and I read back descending through FL180 to cross sargo at 11000 ft. Center came back and said our last clearance was FL200. I got back on the radio and said, 'I heard and read back cross sargo at 11000 ft.' center said, 'that was for other aircraft' and he got their readback. I asked if he wanted us to climb back up to FL200 and he said, 'no, descend to 17000 ft.' and then he switched us to a new controller. I asked if he wanted us to call when we got on the ground and he said, 'no, no problem.' we completed the flight. I believe there was a miscom on the controller's part. We started down after there was no correction of my readback.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C560 ALTDEV NEAR LOU.
Narrative: THE COPLT WAS FLYING AND I WAS PNF. WE WERE IN CRUISE AT FL200 33 MI SW OF NABB, WHEN I HEARD ZID, 'DSND AND CROSS SARGO AT 11000 FT' SO I READ BACK DSND AND CROSS SARGO AT 11000 FT, AND WE STARTED DOWN. PASSING FL180, ZID ASKED WHAT OUR ALT WAS, AND I READ BACK DSNDING THROUGH FL180 TO CROSS SARGO AT 11000 FT. CTR CAME BACK AND SAID OUR LAST CLRNC WAS FL200. I GOT BACK ON THE RADIO AND SAID, 'I HEARD AND READ BACK CROSS SARGO AT 11000 FT.' CTR SAID, 'THAT WAS FOR OTHER ACFT' AND HE GOT THEIR READBACK. I ASKED IF HE WANTED US TO CLB BACK UP TO FL200 AND HE SAID, 'NO, DSND TO 17000 FT.' AND THEN HE SWITCHED US TO A NEW CTLR. I ASKED IF HE WANTED US TO CALL WHEN WE GOT ON THE GND AND HE SAID, 'NO, NO PROB.' WE COMPLETED THE FLT. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MISCOM ON THE CTLR'S PART. WE STARTED DOWN AFTER THERE WAS NO CORRECTION OF MY READBACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.