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Attributes | |
ACN | 451741 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ene.vortac |
State Reference | ME |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Windshear Turbulence |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 119 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v106.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6500 |
ASRS Report | 451741 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying on V106 from ene VOR. The 242 degree radial for 31 DME to ramey intersection and then direct lwm VOR direct bos. I made a mistake and thought ramey was at 35 DME not 31 DME. At 35 DME I proceeded direct lwm VORTAC. Because of the strong winds from the north, we were being blown to the south. The boston controller asked us if we were off course. My reply was 'no we are proceeding direct lwm VORTAC.' he indicated ramey intersection was 8 mi behind us. Also being turned over to the next controller, the controller indicated that he or the previous controller had given us 5000 ft. We checked in at 6000 ft level, our previously assigned, altitude. We told the controller our altitude of 6000 ft assigned. He told us to stay at 6000 ft. During the intersection 'miss' the copilot was off on another radio dealing with company. We did not have a chart out, since we both fly the route on a routine basis, we were both lulled into believing, that ramey intersection was at 35 DME, not at 31 DME. We discussed at length that for trips (routes),we shall have a chart out for the intended route to double-check routes and distances, to avoid this problem in the future. As for the altitude problem, both captain and copilot were on same radio, and heard the 6000 ft assigned altitude to the best of my knowledge we replied 6000 ft. There were many things happening in the cockpit getting prepared for an approach (at night) to runway 33L, and we were performing multiple tasks, at the end of a long day. Both of us are using this NASA form as a learning experience to avoid future mistakes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A BEECH 1900 OVERSHOT COURSE INTXN TURN AND UNDERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING ON V106 FROM ENE VOR. THE 242 DEG RADIAL FOR 31 DME TO RAMEY INTXN AND THEN DIRECT LWM VOR DIRECT BOS. I MADE A MISTAKE AND THOUGHT RAMEY WAS AT 35 DME NOT 31 DME. AT 35 DME I PROCEEDED DIRECT LWM VORTAC. BECAUSE OF THE STRONG WINDS FROM THE N, WE WERE BEING BLOWN TO THE S. THE BOSTON CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE OFF COURSE. MY REPLY WAS 'NO WE ARE PROCEEDING DIRECT LWM VORTAC.' HE INDICATED RAMEY INTXN WAS 8 MI BEHIND US. ALSO BEING TURNED OVER TO THE NEXT CTLR, THE CTLR INDICATED THAT HE OR THE PREVIOUS CTLR HAD GIVEN US 5000 FT. WE CHKED IN AT 6000 FT LEVEL, OUR PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED, ALT. WE TOLD THE CTLR OUR ALT OF 6000 FT ASSIGNED. HE TOLD US TO STAY AT 6000 FT. DURING THE INTXN 'MISS' THE COPLT WAS OFF ON ANOTHER RADIO DEALING WITH COMPANY. WE DID NOT HAVE A CHART OUT, SINCE WE BOTH FLY THE RTE ON A ROUTINE BASIS, WE WERE BOTH LULLED INTO BELIEVING, THAT RAMEY INTXN WAS AT 35 DME, NOT AT 31 DME. WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THAT FOR TRIPS (ROUTES),WE SHALL HAVE A CHART OUT FOR THE INTENDED RTE TO DOUBLE-CHK ROUTES AND DISTANCES, TO AVOID THIS PROB IN THE FUTURE. AS FOR THE ALT PROB, BOTH CAPT AND COPLT WERE ON SAME RADIO, AND HEARD THE 6000 FT ASSIGNED ALT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WE REPLIED 6000 FT. THERE WERE MANY THINGS HAPPENING IN THE COCKPIT GETTING PREPARED FOR AN APCH (AT NIGHT) TO RWY 33L, AND WE WERE PERFORMING MULTIPLE TASKS, AT THE END OF A LONG DAY. BOTH OF US ARE USING THIS NASA FORM AS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO AVOID FUTURE MISTAKES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.