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Attributes | |
ACN | 453299 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : atl.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 453299 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
A normal clearance before engine start stated to fly atl 4 departure maintain 14000 ft. It was read back by captain with no ATC objection. The PNF questioned the 14000 ft during taxi out to runway, because the departure plate shows 10000 ft. I assured him the readback went successfully. After checking in with departure control, the PNF stated the climb to altitude with no objections. The controller who rogered our climb to 14000 ft then called us when we were passing through 10400 ft, acting as if we were cleared to 10000 ft. We stated what we knew as fact, started down to 10000 ft from about 10700 ft, got reclred to 14000 ft, and were given a 30 degree vector towards our on course heading. ATC failed on 2 hearbacks if they wanted us at 10000 ft. Pilots gave them ample opportunity to ensure safety. Their perfunctory attitude is to blame on most of the incident. The flight crew complacency for not questioning the ambiguous clearance while taxiing out was the other part of the blame. The lesson is for ATC to listen to readbacks and pilots to question ATC on clrncs that conflict with pubs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR LJ31 FLC DEPARTING ATL FAILED TO LEVEL OFF AT THE ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: A NORMAL CLRNC BEFORE ENG START STATED TO FLY ATL 4 DEP MAINTAIN 14000 FT. IT WAS READ BACK BY CAPT WITH NO ATC OBJECTION. THE PNF QUESTIONED THE 14000 FT DURING TAXI OUT TO RWY, BECAUSE THE DEP PLATE SHOWS 10000 FT. I ASSURED HIM THE READBACK WENT SUCCESSFULLY. AFTER CHKING IN WITH DEP CTL, THE PNF STATED THE CLB TO ALT WITH NO OBJECTIONS. THE CTLR WHO ROGERED OUR CLB TO 14000 FT THEN CALLED US WHEN WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 10400 FT, ACTING AS IF WE WERE CLRED TO 10000 FT. WE STATED WHAT WE KNEW AS FACT, STARTED DOWN TO 10000 FT FROM ABOUT 10700 FT, GOT RECLRED TO 14000 FT, AND WERE GIVEN A 30 DEG VECTOR TOWARDS OUR ON COURSE HDG. ATC FAILED ON 2 HEARBACKS IF THEY WANTED US AT 10000 FT. PLTS GAVE THEM AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE SAFETY. THEIR PERFUNCTORY ATTITUDE IS TO BLAME ON MOST OF THE INCIDENT. THE FLC COMPLACENCY FOR NOT QUESTIONING THE AMBIGUOUS CLRNC WHILE TAXIING OUT WAS THE OTHER PART OF THE BLAME. THE LESSON IS FOR ATC TO LISTEN TO READBACKS AND PLTS TO QUESTION ATC ON CLRNCS THAT CONFLICT WITH PUBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.