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Attributes | |
ACN | 453910 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lvz.vortac |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 463910 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to original clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
From mht-phl, nyc told us to cross 15 mi north of luz at FL180. Cruising at FL260 I responded, 'understand 15 mi north of luz at FL180, concur please.' she said, 'that's correct.' at 65 mi from luz, nyc called us and said, 'verify 50 mi north of luz at FL180.' I told her, 'you gave us 15 mi north at FL180.' so we descended as fast as we could to make the restr. The problem arose when she did not use the correct phraseology of 'five zero' instead of 50. I heard 15 mi -- not five zero.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG CREW MISSED AN ATC ASSIGNED XING ALT.
Narrative: FROM MHT-PHL, NYC TOLD US TO CROSS 15 MI N OF LUZ AT FL180. CRUISING AT FL260 I RESPONDED, 'UNDERSTAND 15 MI N OF LUZ AT FL180, CONCUR PLEASE.' SHE SAID, 'THAT'S CORRECT.' AT 65 MI FROM LUZ, NYC CALLED US AND SAID, 'VERIFY 50 MI N OF LUZ AT FL180.' I TOLD HER, 'YOU GAVE US 15 MI N AT FL180.' SO WE DSNDED AS FAST AS WE COULD TO MAKE THE RESTR. THE PROB AROSE WHEN SHE DID NOT USE THE CORRECT PHRASEOLOGY OF 'FIVE ZERO' INSTEAD OF 50. I HEARD 15 MI -- NOT FIVE ZERO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.